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    Thanksgiving Proclamation, 3 October 1789

    Thanksgiving Proclamation, 3 October 1789

    Check out President Washington's first Thanksgiving Proclamation.

    In almost every sentence there is a mention of God.

    What would happen today if this Proclamation were made?
    Thanksgiving Proclamation

    [New York, 3 October 1789]
    By the President of the United States of America. a Proclamation.



    Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor—and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me “to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.”


    Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be—That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks—for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation—for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war—for the great degree of tranquillity, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed—for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted—for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.


    and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions—to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually—to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed—to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord—To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us—and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.


    Given under my hand at the City of New-York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

    Go: Washington
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    Impeach the traitor. He is violating the 1st Amendment, Separation of Church and State.

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    My how times have changed. The government referring to, acknowledging God was not originally conceived as establishing a religion. Today it is. Who rewrote the law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Thanksgiving Proclamation, 3 October 1789

    Check out President Washington's first Thanksgiving Proclamation.

    In almost every sentence there is a mention of God.

    What would happen today if this Proclamation were made?
    Yeah, he was mason and he didn't write the US constitution.

    Next scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    My how times have changed. The government referring to, acknowledging God was not originally conceived as establishing a religion. Today it is. Who rewrote the law?
    A speech and a law are two very different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    A speech and a law are two very different things.
    Oh really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Oh really.
    Yeah; read the constitution and then listen to a speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; read the constitution and then listen to a speech.
    The point you're missing is found in this argument:

    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    How much promotional involvement in religion should a public school employee, an agent of the State, be permitted to have before it's considered to be a violation of the First Amendment's establishment clause? Should a public school teacher be able to read from his or her students from the Bible every morning? Lead the class in prayers "in Jesus' name"? Post the Ten Commandments in the classroom? Where do you draw the line?
    If promoting religious plays and prayers violate the First Amendment then so too did Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation.

    The point moreover being that no one squawked about Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation the original intent of the First being what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The point you're missing is found in this argument:



    If promoting religious plays and prayers violate the First Amendment then so too did Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation.

    The point moreover being that no one squawked about Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation the original intent of the First being what it is.
    Wrong again booboo. Washington was making a speech, he was not requiring anybody to listen to it on state time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Wrong again booboo. Washington was making a speech, he was not requiring anybody to listen to it on state time.
    Neither does a school employee promoting Christian plays or prayers. No one was required to listen, no one forced to abide, no law was passed. This is what you're missing. Since you're playing games again, I'll not respond to you again.
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