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Thread: New Conservative Coalition Is a Foundational Shift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Better they remain clueless while it's openly discussed under their noses.
    Clueless they are.
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    The strongest shift I detect has been away from the military-industrial complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    The strongest shift I detect has been away from the military-industrial complex.
    That's interesting hadn't thought of that but that is a possibility .
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I would say that it's not new inroads but more highlighting of minority Republicans because the Republicans want a share of identity politics. They are trying to show that are shifting their agenda towards the working stiff: Ronald Reagan tried that and it backfired horribly. Bear in mind that the vast majority of minorities do not forget history.

    Nor do they remember it apparently. How exactly has the life of minorities improved under Democrat rule? Keep in mind the Civil Rights Act was largely a Republican effort and was opposed by most Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Democrats will shift focus from the working class family values minorities to the criminal street thugs and welfare addicted. They never liked the fact that so many Hispanics have a work ethic and family values. That is why they push for Open Borders to drown them out with waves of illiterate handout voters and third world Socialists.
    That shift started under Obama and his identity politics. They abandoned the working class for a long list of disparate victim groups.
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    Completely doesn't get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I would say that it's not new inroads but more highlighting of minority Republicans because the Republicans want a share of identity politics. They are trying to show that are shifting their agenda towards the working stiff: Ronald Reagan tried that and it backfired horribly. Bear in mind that the vast majority of minorities do not forget history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That minority support was nowhere to be seen in the election, so I don't how the claim can be made.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/215379...ers-exit-polls

    The black vote against Trump was heaviest in the disputed cities. The black vote in the outlying regions of each state was about 15% for Trump. I think its highly racist on the part of Democrats to continue to believe blacks want to be held to lower standards than whites, want to continue to depend on government handouts, and want the destruction of the black family to continue unabated. Republicans believe blacks are equal to whites, Democrats believe blacks are incapable of survival without their handouts.
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    Is it a party shift or a Trump shift.

    I look back only 2 years ago and see the poison that still ran our party with Paul Ryan, Romney, McCain, Graham, Rubio, Alexander... and the supporters of the US Chamber of Commerce/Corporate elitists.

    Trump came in and turned that upside down.

    The question is will the GOP go back to listening to the poison of neoconservatism or who will lead us in the continued fight back to the days of the Real Republican movement. Only 5 years ago we were docile enough to accept a Jeb Bush type candidate before Trump came aboard. The GOP better continue to clean house or the party will fragment.
    When I think about having to vote for that poison named Graham again then it makes me ill. Already he is talking amnesty again.

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    I'd call it a people shift, one that Trump attached himself to.

    If the GOP doesn't change from establishment, neocon types, it'll lose out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That's interesting hadn't thought of that but that is a possibility .
    A shift away from neoconservatism is probably a factor but I'm not sure exactly how.
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