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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    Merely Barr desperation as he see's his future.
    What future do you think he sees? He was pretty much retired so he will resume that status more than likely. Generally speaking the majority of people who leave Gov't service retire and enjoy life if they are old enough. It is really just the last few administrations where people leave and go into media, or some other choice to try to retain that power feeling they had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    This is wrong. As I noted above, Durham is not a "special counsel" under the regulations that contain these limitations on removal. He can be removed for any reason by Biden's DOJ. It would be politically risky to do it, but they don't need cause.
    And then there's this;

    § 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and -(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney’s Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    And then there's this;

    § 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and -(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney’s Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.
    That's not relevant, since 600.3(a) requires that any special counsel appointed under these regulations come from outside the government. Durham doesn't qualify. He was appointed to an ad hoc position outside of the special counsel regs, so the restrictions on removing a special counsel under those regs don't apply to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    That's not relevant, since 600.3(a) requires that any special counsel appointed under these regulations come from outside the government. Durham doesn't qualify. He was appointed to an ad hoc position outside of the special counsel regs, so the restrictions on removing a special counsel under those regs don't apply to him.
    Then apparently the Special Counsel regulations contradict themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Then apparently the Special Counsel regulations contradict themselves.
    Where? There is no conflict. The regs say that the AG can appoint a special counsel and impose certain requirements for any such appointee. They don't give the AG authority to waive the requirements or appoint anyone he wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Where? There is no conflict. The regs say that the AG can appoint a special counsel and impose certain requirements for any such appointee. They don't give the AG authority to waive the requirements or appoint anyone he wants to.
    There is a conflict, 600.1 says "b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel"

    That ^^ is not a mandate. Later in 600.3 it says, "shall" appoint from outside. That ^^ is a mandate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    What future do you think he sees? He was pretty much retired so he will resume that status more than likely. Generally speaking the majority of people who leave Gov't service retire and enjoy life if they are old enough. It is really just the last few administrations where people leave and go into media, or some other choice to try to retain that power feeling they had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    There is a conflict, 600.1 says "b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel"

    That ^^ is not a mandate. Later in 600.3 it says, "shall" appoint from outside. That ^^ is a mandate.
    That's not a conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Here’s a piece explaining why I was right. Durham is not a special counsel under the special counsel regulations. He’s an ad hoc appointment by Barr because he doesn’t meet the requirements to be a special counsel.

    And if you don’t believe that source, here’s a piece from Fox News making the same point: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/russ...ndrew-mccarthy
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    Making John Durham a special counsel will cause problems for Biden

    Some conflicts developing seem obvious as Biden turns to a host of former Obama officials for positions, including the possible selection of Sally Yates as Attorney General. Yates was directly involved in the Russian investigation and signed off on the controversial surveillance of Trump associate Carter Page. She now says that she would never have signed the application if she knew what she knows today.

    Durham is now authorized to investigate anyone who may have “violated the law in connection with the intelligence, counter-intelligence, or law-enforcement activities directed at the 2016 presidential campaigns, individuals associated with those campaigns, and individuals associated with the administration of President Donald J. Trump, including but not limited to Crossfire Hurricane and the investigation of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III.” The list of the names of people falling within that mandate is a who’s who of Washington from Hillary Clinton to James Comey to . . . yes . . . Joe Biden.

    Bizarrely,
    reports have claimed that Trump was irate at the move as a “smokescreen” to delay the release of the report. That ignores not just the legal but political significance of the action. From a political perspective, the move is so elegantly lethal that it would make Machiavelli green with envy.

    Over the last few months, Democrats appeared to be laying the foundation to scuttle the Durham investigation as well as any investigation into the Hunter Biden influence peddling scheme. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) denounced the Durham investigation as “tainted” and “political.” On the campaign trail, Biden himself dismissed the “investigation of the investigators.” Over in the Senate, Democrats joined in the mantra with Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and others denouncing the continued investigations.

    By converting Durham into a special counsel, Barr
    makes it harder to fire him. It is not uncommon for presidents to replace all U.S. Attorneys with political allies. Durham however is now a Special Counsel and his replacement or the termination of his investigation would be viewed as an obstructive act. Indeed, when Trump even suggested such a course of action, he was accused of obstruction by a host of Democratic politicians and legal experts.
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