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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    You must have really hated Reagan, since he gave them hundreds of millions of dollars and Obama's payments to Iran were pursuant to the commitments Reagan made to comply with the results of the cases before the Iran-US Claims Tribunal.
    I don't hate Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I don't agree with any of that.
    ....and you have every right to believe that .....but you have no right to expect your opinions to become universally accepted by all , no matter what . You have become a vigilant campaigner for the destruction of the democratic principals that you claim to uphold......that's blind stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    ....and you have every right to believe that .....but you have no right to expect your opinions to become universally accepted by all , no matter what . You have become a vigilant campaigner for the destruction of the democratic principals that you claim to uphold......that's blind stupidity.
    I never said everyone must believe in what I say. I also am not a proponent of democracy outside of the local context where individuals are in tuned with local issues. Democracy at the national level is dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I never said everyone must believe in what I say. I also am not a proponent of democracy outside of the local context where individuals are in tuned with local issues. Democracy at the national level is dangerous.
    Democracy only comes in one flavor......it's either pure , or it's not democracy .....it can't be tailored to suit special interest groups.

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    The US was never in the Iran Deal. The Senate and House never approved a treaty. Obama knew neither would. It was not even a legitimate commitment. That's why it was so easy to pull out of.

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    Originally Posted by Peter1469
    I never said everyone must believe in what I say. I also am not a proponent of democracy outside of the local context where individuals are in tuned with local issues. Democracy at the national level is dangerous.


    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Democracy only comes in one flavor......it's either pure , or it's not democracy .....it can't be tailored to suit special interest groups.
    Why quote me if your response is not addressing what I said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Joe Biden, the projected US president-elect, confirmed to the New York Times his intention to return the United States to the Iran nuclear deal during his tenure and hold follow-up negotiations if Tehran returns to strict compliance with the agreement."It's going to be hard, but yeah," Biden told the newspaper when asked whether he stood by his views on the Iran nuclear deal.
    According to Biden, if Iran acquires a nuclear bomb, it will put enormous pressure on Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and other states to get nuclear weapons themselves.
    "And the last goddamn thing we need in that part of the world is a buildup of nuclear capability ... in consultation with our allies and partners, we’re going to engage in negotiations and follow-on agreements to tighten and lengthen Iran’s nuclear constraints, as well as address the missile program," the politician said. .........https://sputniknews.com/world/202012...al-biden-says/

    1) Only one country , one leader was radical enough to use nukes on people. TWICE. Of course no one else had them then.
    2) Since then multiple nations have accurried nukes and for 75 years no one has used them.
    3) Nuke nations tend to not get invaded.
    4) The more countries with nukes the more difficult/perilous it becomes to wage war.
    5) That's not all bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    The US was never in the Iran Deal. The Senate and House never approved a treaty. Obama knew neither would. It was not even a legitimate commitment. That's why it was so easy to pull out of.
    That didn't make it a bad deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Democracy only comes in one flavor......it's either pure , or it's not democracy .....it can't be tailored to suit special interest groups.
    There is not such thing as pure Democracy so your own comment is ridiculous. A country is to large to be run by everyone going to one hill to vote on national Hamburger Day.
    Pure Democracy is impractical and becomes mob rule. Lets take PJL out and tie chains around his feet and throw him in the ocean. I only need 50.01% of the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Good move . The decision to pull out was arguably Rumps dumbest move in 2 years as president . It will be good to have a US president without netyahoo's hand up his back , once again.
    We're going to re enter many of the global programs that trump removed us from.

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