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    A Cosmic Puzzle Best Left Unsolved

    Came across this and thought I'd post to see what people think about it. I sort of agree with the conclusion, seen below, and understand what Sara Susswein Tesler said about "you just took away all of my emunah."

    A Cosmic Puzzle Best Left Unsolved

    In an interview on 18Forty, Sara Susswein Tesler (a former teacher at SAR High School in Riverdale, NY, who is currently a Torah lecturer based in Efrat) says that she was once walking in the Old City of Jerusalem and happened to pass by Yeshivat Aish HaTorah (where I was fortunate to study for several years). She noticed that they were hosting a seminar and decided to join, and she soon discovered that the topic of the seminar was the proof of God. When she found out what was being taught, her initial thought was: you just took away all of my emunah.

    The lecture she sat in on may have been given by Harold Gans, author of The Cosmic Puzzle: A Scientific Investigation into the Existence of God (Feldheim Publishing, 2020). In this work, the author uses the scientific method and evidence from science to prove God’s existence....

    ...Gans writes of the most significant perfect storm that occurred when, at the time of creation, everything came together just right, and the world came into being. He notes countless various effects that were coalescing just right, which led to a world that could sustain life. Moreover, if all of these just-right ingredients for life did not come together in a perfectly timed sequence, down to the nanosecond, life as we know it would not exist. In fact, everything is so fine-tuned and perfect for existence here on Earth that Gans tells us it is statistically impossible for this to have happened without a Creator.

    A few more of the voluminous just-right events include....

    ...For the most part, when it comes to science and religion, there is an observer bias. It is said that for the believer, there are no questions, and for the heretic, there are no answers. For the former, The Cosmic Puzzle will undoubtedly strengthen their beliefs. For the non-believer, their response will be closer to “meh.”...

    ...To conclude with the words of the late great mathematician Amir Aczel, which is consistent with what R. Sacks writes in The Great Partnership: science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let us keep them that way and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    To you and your book, here again raise a drink,

    But sorry to say not a thing do I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Came across this and thought I'd post to see what people think about it. I sort of agree with the conclusion, seen below, and understand what Sara Susswein Tesler said about "you just took away all of my emunah."

    A Cosmic Puzzle Best Left Unsolved
    Science will eventually prove the existence of God. Twice now I've suggested that you look into quantum entanglement.

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    Think though. Assume God is supernatural. How then prove God exists by means of natural science?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Think though. Assume God is supernatural. How then prove God exists by means of natural science?
    True enough...but then, if one believes in God through faith, why bother trying? Why try so hard, as the Creation Science folks do, to "prove" God's existence by looking at the physical world and how it works?

    As for the "statistically impossible...without a creator" argument - who is doing the math on that one? A bunch of monkeys only a couple of hundred thousand years out of the cave? For all we truly know, life may be arising from non-life somewhere in the universe every fifteen seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    True enough...but then, if one believes in God through faith, why bother trying? Why try so hard, as the Creation Science folks do, to "prove" God's existence by looking at the physical world and how it works?

    As for the "statistically impossible...without a creator" argument - who is doing the math on that one? A bunch of monkeys only a couple of hundred thousand years out of the cave? For all we truly know, life may be arising from non-life somewhere in the universe every fifteen seconds.

    I never understood Creation Science attempts to do this, to make the supernatural natural. Using mathematics to say natural creation is impossible is just an extension of that into intelligent design. This is why Sara Susswein Tesler said "you just took away all of my emunah."
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