Landmark Study Finds Masks Are Ineffective

[MMC]

LOL Too funny another quack site to keep the snowflakes happily ignorant. Given our infection rates and deaths you'd think by now even hardcore Trump cult members would learn? But no, cult belief take more than truth to convince them they are being played. Some people never learn and the constant nonsense about masks is proof positive. Wake up folks, still following like a puppy your cult leader Trump may kill you.


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While it is an unpleasant thought, pandemics will come again. Wake up.


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PS I have AB+ and have never had the flu or any other illness - knock wood - I may have a cold every five years or more, had perfect attendance through HS. Just sayin....

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Now we know what you are about.

[MMC]

Agreeded, cloth and surgical masks are not very effective at protecting the wearer.

They are designed to protect people AROUND the wearer. That is why surgeons (all over the world, for decades) wear surgical masks during surgeries.

The study is irrelevant to the current situation.

The study is relevant. Just as.....those that were lockdown with the infected on Cruiseliners for 20 days or more. In the same cabins with the infected and yet walked out not being infected.


Just as studies on Social distancing should be. Just as studies on testing should be.

[MMC]

As an example of extremes, a June 2020 Harvard University paper6,7 even suggested couples should wear face masks during sex. Others are tripling down on masks, recommending you wear two or even three at the same time.8 Former Food and Drug Administration commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb is urging Americans to wear N95 surgical masks whenever possible.


Data clearly show that COVID-19 has not resulted in excess mortality, meaning the same number of people who die in any given year, on average, have died in this year of the pandemic.17,18 Several studies19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26 also suggest immunity against SARS-CoV-2 infection is far more widespread than anyone imagined.....snip~



Missing entirely from most recommendations is common-sense health guidance known to improve your immune function and lower your infection risk naturally, such as supplementing with vitamin D, NAC, melatonin, quercetin and zinc.....snip~



Yes.....what has always been missing from the CDC and all the lefts so called experts.

[DGUtley]

LOL Too funny another quack site to keep the snowflakes happily ignorant. Given our infection rates and deaths you'd think by now even hardcore Trump cult members would learn? But no, cult belief take more than truth to convince them they are being played. Some people never learn and the constant nonsense about masks is proof positive. Wake up folks, still following like a puppy your cult leader Trump may kill you.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mercola/


While it is an unpleasant thought, pandemics will come again. Wake up.


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PS I have AB+ and have never had the flu or any other illness - knock wood - I may have a cold every five years or more, had perfect attendance through HS. Just sayin....

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[MMC]

Masks Are Another Way To Control Society Through Isolation.....


Those of us who are unsettled by mask mandates often cite the loss of freedoms as the reason behind our concerns, but that doesn’t even begin to tell the whole story. Mask mandates are not just dehumanizing in the context of today’s society, preventing us from reading the faces of others. There is yet another level of dehumanization. Getting “used to” masks suggests something more spiritually sinister: a Borg-like facelessness that isolates and atomizes every one of us.
There are, of course, several obvious reasons to object to mask mandates. First, those who push for them have made it very easy to be skeptical of their claims that any old mask is essential for public safety. A mask alone in the car? On the beach in the sun and salt air? On the walk into a restaurant but not after you’re seated?



Many blue-state governors and mayors such as Nashville’s John Cooper, whom businesses have accused of covering up declining COVID-19 case numbers to keep the lockdowns going, can’t hide the fact that they are social engineers at heart. For them, the Wuhan virus is an irresistible mechanism for social control.


We also get glimpses of our self-appointed betters, such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who doff the mask whenever it suits them but insist that the little people be punished for not wearing them. We also know many of the demoralizing effects of these lockdowns and mask mandates are proving to be deadly. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicates that lockdowns could kill as many people as the virus itself.


Suffice it to say that some people are too much in a state of fear and ignorance to see mask mandates as anything but safety measures, but most of us know when we’re being played — and we are indeed being played. We can see it in the experts’ vacillation since day one of the pandemic.


We began with “15 days to flatten the curve” to no end in sight for lockdowns and masks eight months later. We began with Dr. Anthony Fauci’s claim that “there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask,” but now experts insist that they are “required” to stop the spread. We began with the logical assumption that a vaccine would bring us back to normal, but then we heard from Fauci that a vaccine won’t change anything “for at least a year.”


The average sane observer has a right to see all of this as kabuki theater. In the meantime, the mask scolds have been monomaniacal about this one particular virus as though there is absolutely no other way to die. What they don’t seem to understand is that this is no way to live.



Controlling Society Through Isolation

Masks are a form of social isolation, and humans cannot survive emotionally or even physically when they are forcibly separated from one another. You may ask, how are mask mandates isolating in the context of safety? After all, you can still go out in a mask. You can still speak through them. All that’s asked is that you wear masks to avoid spreading potential viral droplets from your breath to those around you. How is this isolating?
Even when medically necessary, mask mandates are isolating because facelessness is isolating. You don’t know — you can’t know — the person wearing the mask. The entire mood of masking is anti-relational and anti-friendship. Wearing a mask prohibits the communication of a smile and the clarity of expression. It gets us in the habit of wearing a flat affect underneath the mask.


Take courtrooms, for example. It has become clear to many involved in court cases that trial witnesses must not wear masks because the jury can’t assess the truth when the witnesses’ faces are covered. The solution for some is transparent face shields......snip~


Masks Are Another Way To Control Society Through Isolation (thefederalist.com)


Lets make it simple.....seniors and leftists wear masks at all times. Then lets see if their deaths decrease.

[MisterVeritis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola

Sounds like a crackpot.

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[MisterVeritis]

Landmark Study Finds Masks Are Ineffective

The first randomized controlled trial of mask effectiveness shows that they are not effective.

Here is the actual study.

Conclusion:

The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.

[OGIS]

They work in one direction but not the other? That's confusing. A non-vented filter that works differently in one direction?

I totally understand if you are confused. Really.

This is how a VA surgeon explained it to me (this was during a pre-surgery chat with the surgical team, just before my last bladder resection, which was at the start of this pandemic):

When you exhale (and this includes talking, singing, shouting, etc.) you expel tiny droplets of moisture with the mixture of O2 and CO that you are exhaling. If you have a cold or other disease in your respiratory system, the bacteria or virus hitches a ride* on these droplets. A certain percentage (40% to 60% generally) of those moisture droplets immediately hit the surface of the cloth or surgical mask, and stick to it. So, therefore, also do the bacteria or viruses attached to those droplets. Your breath (and some of the moisture droplets) continue through the mask, where they immediately begin to dry out in the "free air" of the environment.

Less moist droplets hit the outside of the masks that other people around you are wearing. Since they are less moist, they don't stick as easily to the fabric, and a greater percentage of them can penetrate to the inside, and thence to your lungs. That fact, combined with the open sides and loose fit, make cloth and surgical masks only 5% to 8% effective at stopping incoming bacteria and viruses.

So: outgoing? 40% to 60% effective. Incoming? Only 5% to 8% effective.

This is why surgeons were surgical masks: to protect YOU, the patient.

I wear a KN-95 that offers a (tested) 87.6% protection both ways. I understand that surgeons at the VA now are wearing either KN-95s or N-95s (if they can get any, since Jared stole them all).

* Bacteria and viruses rarely if ever travel through the air all by their lonesome. They attach themselves to moisture droplets.

[MisterVeritis]

I totally understand if you are confused. Really.

This is how a VA surgeon explained it to me (this was during a pre-surgery chat with the surgical team, just before my last bladder resection, which was at the start of this pandemic):

When you exhale (and this includes talking, singing, shouting, etc.) you expel tiny droplets of moisture with the mixture of O2 and CO that you are exhaling. If you have a cold or other disease in your respiratory system, the bacteria or virus hitches a ride* on these droplets. A certain percentage (40% to 60% generally) of those moisture droplets immediately hit the surface of the cloth or surgical mask, and stick to it. So, therefore, also do the bacteria or viruses attached to those droplets. Your breath (and some of the moisture droplets) continue through the mask, where they immediately begin to dry out in the "free air" of the environment.

Less moist droplets hit the outside of the masks that other people around you are wearing. Since they are less moist, they don't stick as easily to the fabric, and a greater percentage of them can penetrate to the inside, and thence to your lungs. That fact, combined with the open sides and loose fit, make cloth and surgical masks only 5% to 8% effective at stopping incoming bacteria and viruses.

So: outgoing? 40% to 60% effective. Incoming? Only 5% to 8% effective.

This is why surgeons were surgical masks: to protect YOU, the patient.

I wear a KN-95 that offers a (tested) 87.6% protection both ways. I understand that surgeons at the VA now are wearing either KN-95s or N-95s (if they can get any, since Jared stole them all).

* Bacteria and viruses rarely if ever travel through the air all by their lonesome. They attach themselves to moisture droplets.

Thanks. Masks confer a very small amount of protection. If you need to wear one by all means do so.

[Tahuyaman]

Landmark Study Finds Masks Are Ineffective

However, they can make the easily manipulated crowd feel better.