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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    The New Testament was written about 2000 years ago and the Old Testament goes back to 1460 bc. HOWEVER, scripture does support and in many cases is the basis for and the impetus for scientific discoveries.
    Which discoveries specifically are supported by which bible verses?
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    Who has evidence supporting the existence of gods?
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    Jews.
    Put some thought into your answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post


    which is entirely different from government approved adults forcing eh theory, That's THEORY of evolution on children in a public school setting.
    Why do you object to teaching the theory of evolution by natural selection in schools?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    "Scientists" can only describe a moment in time that they think existed in a certain state. They cannot explain the moment before that. The claim that antimatter created the universe gives no explanation as to where antimatter came from.

    In other words, the scientists have no idea of anything other than they do not like the idea of a God creating it.

    That makes it difficult for them to have any ground to criticize what other people believe.

    Scientist's are no different than other people. Some claim authority by repeating exactly what they were told to repeat. Some deny authority and known science and become inventors and creators. Some mix the two.

    Science is always wrong before it is right and then proven wrong again...
    "Religionists" can only describe a moment in time that they think existed in a certain state. They cannot explain the moment before that. The claim that God created the universe gives no explanation as to how God did it.

    In other words, the religionists have no idea of anything other than they do not like the idea of no gods.

    That makes it difficult for them to have any ground to criticize what other people believe.

    Religionists are no different than other people. Some claim authority by repeating exactly what they were told to repeat.

    Our two statements add no additional understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Why do you object to teaching the theory of evolution by natural selection in schools?
    are you trying to say that evolution and natural selection are the same thing. no. they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    are you trying to say that evolution and natural selection are the same thing. no. they are not.
    Darwin's theory explains evolution through natural selection. Why do you object to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    If God exists and wants people to find him by way of scientific inquiry I guess that will happen. In the meantime, some folks - particularly the "Creation Science" types - spend an inordinate amount of time doing something along those very lines by pointing out this or that natural process and saying, "Look! That must have been done by an intelligent creator!" In effect looking for God's signature on the painting. Whereas the Bible describes faith as "the evidence of things not seen".
    Yeah the intelligent design people are pretty amusing. Western religion is on this kick that God MUST be like us, talk like us, think like us, want "Liberty" and free markets. It all goes back to the original priests of Sumer probably and the noble class. Can't fall out of favor!

    I said once that science is only showing us how god did it: the tricks of the magician as it were. Quantum entanglement says more about the universe and consciousness than people have ever known, and that is the trail in my view. The Bible? A book of metaphors. To make anything else of it is a waste of it's wisdom.
    Make everything from toy guns that spark, to flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark. Itís easy to see without looking too far, that not much is really sacred.
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