Is the Pandemic the End of the Buffet?

[Thom Paine]

Especially the 1.84 million who fell so hard they assumed room temperature and had to be buried or cremated. What suckers.

After the first 30 days I relegated my concern level to the same as other 'demics' I have lived through.. somewhere near zero concern. Its a virus, it will do what they do. there will be no cure.. its here to stay like other flus and colds.
Notice that flu and colds are near non existent this year. We should wonder that for a bit.

[Standing Wolf]

After the first 30 days I relegated my concern level to the same as other 'demics' I have lived through.. somewhere near zero concern. Its a virus, it will do what they do. there will be no cure.. its here to stay like other flus and colds.
Notice that flu and colds are near non existent this year. We should wonder that for a bit.

As someone who came very, very close to assuming room temperature myself two years ago this week, from pneumonia, and who still has a difficult time getting enough air in my lungs due to the scar tissue in my trachea, and who has to occasionally take a dose of Lorazepam to make myself sleep so I don't lie awake all night worrying about waking up and not being able to breathe, I think I can be forgiven (or at least understood) for taking all practical precautions seriously.

[Thom Paine]

As someone who came very, very close to assuming room temperature myself two years ago this week, from pneumonia, and who still has a difficult time getting enough air in my lungs due to the scar tissue in my trachea, and who has to occasionally take a dose of Lorazepam to make myself sleep so I don't lie awake all night worrying about waking up and not being able to breathe, I think I can be forgiven (or at least understood) for taking all practical precautions seriously.

You should be commended, not abased, for being aware or your personal needs and responding accordingly. That's what each of us should do.
Wishing you health and prosperity Sir.

[Ethereal]

Especially the 1.84 million who fell so hard they assumed room temperature and had to be buried or cremated. What suckers.

There is really nothing to say to someone who takes government statistics at face value without questioning them even slightly.

[Ethereal]

As someone who came very, very close to assuming room temperature myself two years ago this week, from pneumonia, and who still has a difficult time getting enough air in my lungs due to the scar tissue in my trachea, and who has to occasionally take a dose of Lorazepam to make myself sleep so I don't lie awake all night worrying about waking up and not being able to breathe, I think I can be forgiven (or at least understood) for taking all practical precautions seriously.

There is nothing practical about what we're doing. It is pure lunacy, in fact.

[FindersKeepers]

Especially the 1.84 million who fell so hard they assumed room temperature and had to be buried or cremated. What suckers.

To be fair -- the PCR test isn't as accurate as we wish it were. It's very likely picking up covid, but it's also likely to be picking up the common cold and influenza and lumping them all in together. The CDC is reporting unheard-of low influenza cases this year -- but they're careful to issue a warning that the low numbers could be attributable to covid. Early on, I thought I'd donate blood and get a free covid antibody test at the same time. The CDC, however, warned that if I had antibodies, it could be from a common cold registering as covid antibodies.

https://www.icd10monitor.com/false-positives-in-pcr-tests-for-covid-19

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Covid is a thing. It's killing people. It's not a hoax.

It might not be killing as many as you've been led to believe it's killing. That's all I'm saying.

Back in August, the New York Times sounded the alarm.

The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.



This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.



In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus,a review by The Times found.

That number is significant Wolf.

[FindersKeepers]

Especially the 1.84 million who fell so hard they assumed room temperature and had to be buried or cremated. What suckers.

One more thing, Wolf, and I don't have a medical report to back this one up--just my sister who's a national Hospice nurse. She used to jet across the nation four or more times per month, but since last February, she's been grounded and has to conduct all her meetings on Zoom.

Hospices are seeing a large number of patient deaths that test positive--posthumously--for covid. The thing is, the average time a Hospice patient is in the program has not been reduced. In other words, these patients who are terminal and are the sickest of the sick, are not dying more quickly than they normally would be after entering the Hospice program. These are the ones with the greatest comorbidities of all.

It's going to be years before all of this is sorted out, and it's not a bad idea to take precautions, but the story that's coming out, might not be the final story.

[donttread]

The new world might not have it, either, if we all sit down and be honest. Science is preoccupied enough right now, and taking academics away from researching world- saving vaccines to instead develop a cough guard big enough and robust enough to stop a toddler from infecting a communal bowl of chipsticks seems like a waste of money and time. Buffets are a good thing socially (they help bring people together!) but a bad thing pandemically (they let people repeatedly dip the same crisp into a shared pot of hummus!) and by that respect, the UN should really look into making them an international crime. It’s hard to know what the world will ever look like post-Covid, but right now it doesn’t feel like it involves a lot of sausage roll sharing platters.


http://theguardian.com/food/2020/sep...et-in-covid-19


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As long as they don't ban family style pot luck dinners ( Typically buffet format)

[chaidragonfire]

As someone who came very, very close to assuming room temperature myself two years ago this week, from pneumonia, and who still has a difficult time getting enough air in my lungs due to the scar tissue in my trachea, and who has to occasionally take a dose of Lorazepam to make myself sleep so I don't lie awake all night worrying about waking up and not being able to breathe, I think I can be forgiven (or at least understood) for taking all practical precautions seriously.

DUDE! OMG!
I had pneumonia when I was about 4 years old, and I remember it like it was yesterday! Geez I feel for you!!

Recently I thought I was having a severe panic attack, because every time I moved I couldn't take a breath! I was stuck in my recliner for almost 2 days because moving literally shut my lungs down. Friends called 911 for me when they checked on me. Come to find out I had a huge clot in one lung, and one clot in each leg. They have no idea what the clot was from, nor do they know why it formed so fast, as my blood tests came back negative for all the tests they did!

They said it would take up to a year for me to recoup, and so far I'm having to do everything in slow motion and in short spurts so I don't fall over from lack of being able to breathe.






As for buffets, drive thru's, or just all eating places in general.............it's a NO GO for me. Not even going to tempt fate.
The closest I've gotten to any outside food, is getting some fried chicken from the grocery store deli.....but thats immediately after they removed it from the fryer!
Other than that, I make my own meals from packaged grocery store ingredients.

[Peter1469]

DUDE! OMG!
I had pneumonia when I was about 4 years old, and I remember it like it was yesterday! Geez I feel for you!!

Recently I thought I was having a severe panic attack, because every time I moved I couldn't take a breath! I was stuck in my recliner for almost 2 days because moving literally shut my lungs down. Friends called 911 for me when they checked on me. Come to find out I had a huge clot in one lung, and one clot in each leg. They have no idea what the clot was from, nor do they know why it formed so fast, as my blood tests came back negative for all the tests they did!

They said it would take up to a year for me to recoup, and so far I'm having to do everything in slow motion and in short spurts so I don't fall over from lack of being able to breathe.






As for buffets, drive thru's, or just all eating places in general.............it's a NO GO for me. Not even going to tempt fate.
The closest I've gotten to any outside food, is getting some fried chicken from the grocery store deli.....but thats immediately after they removed it from the fryer!
Other than that, I make my own meals from packaged grocery store ingredients.

I had some serious blood clots come on all of a sudden like that. It was a reaction to an infection. Unfortunately it can kill you.