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    Supreme Court Hearing Should Signal Shift From Baseless Lawsuits to Realistic Climate

    Supreme Court Hearing Should Signal Shift From Baseless Lawsuits to Realistic Climate

    In the last few years cities have been filing lawsuits against Big Oil - many observers call these cases frivolous. These lawsuits only seek damages and not regulation of emissions or other policies to help the environment. One of these cases will be argued at SCOTUS, and these lawsuits should be shut down.

    I don't recall which case it was, but I posted a thread about it at the time. In that case a judge held a pre-trial hearing to serve as a primer to climate change science. The defense experts blew the plaintiff witnesses out of the water. The media made little note of it, no doubt because it ran counter to their climate alarm agenda.

    For years, energy manufacturers have helped drive down U.S. carbon emissions by unleashing a flood of home-grown, low-carbon natural gas, reducing America’s carbon footprint even as we use more energy. At the same time, despite emissions reduction progress, a handful of cities and counties including Baltimore, New York City, and Washington, DC among others have sued energy manufacturers in the name of climate change, spurred on by ambitious trial attorneys and imaginative legal theories.

    Federal law is clear, though, with the Supreme Court clearly ruling in American Electric Power v. Connecticut in 2011 that it’s EPA’s job to regulate carbon emissions. That’s why trial attorneys have fought so hard to move climate lawsuits to state courts and that’s why a January 19th Supreme Court hearing could be so important. Major energy firms have asked justices to send Baltimore’s climate lawsuit to federal court, creating a potential legal precedent that could effectively sink the climate lawsuit cottage industry.




    Let’s be honest. Climate lawsuits aren’t really about climate anyway. For example, while attorneys argue publicly that such lawsuits are about reducing fossil fuel use in the name of climate, their filings seek only damages, not regulation of emissions or other policies that would actually help our climate. And the so-called damages? While cities like Oakland claim billions in climate change damages in legal filings, they sing a different tune in bond offerings, with Oakland officials saying they are “unable to predict” climate change’s impact on the city. The Manufacturers’ Accountability Project examined the motivations driving these lawsuits in a recent report. The report found that University of Oregon School of Law Professor Mary Christina Wood, who is involved in advancing climate lawsuit strategies stated, “Building sea walls and repairing roads won’t do anything to fix our global climate system, but it will drain the profits of the fossil fuel companies.”


    It’s not just hypocrisy that’s the problem. Climate lawsuits are actually counterproductive when you consider that energy manufacturers have made great strides in reducing emissions, addressing climate change, and pursuing clean energy technology and innovative solutions. In fact, increased energy supplies are driving climate gains. A new Energy Information Administration report says natural gas hydraulic fracturing and competitive energy markets are to credit for reducing U.S. carbon emissions, not government regulation. A switch from coal to natural gas has accounted for more than half the nation’s emissions reductions since 2010, with energy-related carbon emissions in the U.S. dropping 2.8% last year alone. Energy supplies, not government mandates, are why the International Energy Agency has credited the U.S. for achieving the largest absolute decline in carbon emissions of any nation since 2000.
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    A new Energy Information Administration report says natural gas hydraulic fracturing and competitive energy markets are to credit for reducing U.S. carbon emissions, not government regulation. A switch from coal to natural gas has accounted for more than half the nation’s emissions reductions since 2010, with energy-related carbon emissions in the U.S. dropping 2.8% last year alone. Energy supplies, not government mandates, are why the International Energy Agency has credited the U.S. for achieving the largest absolute decline in carbon emissions of any nation since 2000.....snip~




    U.S. will soon rejoin the Paris climate accord, but ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/22/...
    Dec 22, 2020 · The Biden Agenda The U.S. will soon rejoin the Paris climate accord. Then comes the hard part. “The U.S. has to do a lot to rebuild trust," one international climate activist says.


    The US should plan on starting in the Hole around 30 Billion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A new Energy Information Administration report says natural gas hydraulic fracturing and competitive energy markets are to credit for reducing U.S. carbon emissions, not government regulation. A switch from coal to natural gas has accounted for more than half the nation’s emissions reductions since 2010, with energy-related carbon emissions in the U.S. dropping 2.8% last year alone. Energy supplies, not government mandates, are why the International Energy Agency has credited the U.S. for achieving the largest absolute decline in carbon emissions of any nation since 2000.....snip~




    U.S. will soon rejoin the Paris climate accord, but ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/22/...
    Dec 22, 2020 · The Biden Agenda The U.S. will soon rejoin the Paris climate accord. Then comes the hard part. “The U.S. has to do a lot to rebuild trust," one international climate activist says.


    The US should plan on starting in the Hole around 30 Billion.
    Bolded: That is asinine. The US has beat its Paris Accord's goals. Almost no other nation has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Bolded: That is asinine. The US has beat its Paris Accord's goals. Almost no other nation has.
    The leftist knows that. So they want a lot of apologizing from the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The leftist knows that. So they want a lot of apologizing from the US.
    They could care less about our emissions. They want our money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    They could care less about our emissions. They want our money.
    And Joe will give it to them and then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    And Joe will give it to them and then some.
    Yup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yup
    I wonder which Euro Country will tell Biden they wont be able to make their 2% for NATO first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Bolded: That is asinine. The US has beat its Paris Accord's goals. Almost no other nation has.
    But they see the US as a source of money and the environment as a way to shut down metals production and heavy industrial production in the USA. I lived it for 8 years under Obama and Democrats state regulations that were ridiculous and got worse every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I wonder which Euro Country will tell Biden they wont be able to make their 2% for NATO first.
    Several will probably trip over themselves to be first.
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