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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Not the nationalist populists.
    All they have left is influence through NGO's.....which is now exposed through the banishment by Hungary and Russia of any Soros backed organizations......a move that will more than likely spread through all of Europe eventually...not to mention the decrease of their financial power over the next year and beyond.Most of them are old anyway , and will be dropping dead soon enough. Even the Rothschilds are losing money and influence....there will be no "Great Reset" , except for maybe a failed attempt in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    It needs to be said , that all these events are internal US developments , not global developments , apart from the global effect that bitcoin will have on the world's financial systems....... Joe and his Democrats may be the public face of the US government , but any plans the DeepState has , regarding regime change or preservation of US hegemony will have minimal global impact , and will be fraught with mortal danger for US interests , DeepState interests or the interests of the US population in general .....It remains to be seen if the global community will decide to punish America for it's sins , or be happy enough to progress into the future , without the US continually poking them in the eye.
    You're thinking too nationally. The elites that run the US run other countries as well, including yours.

    There is no incentive to restrict American interventionism, because it serves their interests. The profiteers of our interventionism are spread wide across the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Globalists are a spent force......I think even their wealth will turn to sand in the not too distant future......however , Europe , as union , has genuine reasons to be at odds with the US , even though they have an elite political class of their own that's connected to the US establishment. (which is connected to the UK establishment , which is connected to the European establishment.........and round and round it goes in ever decreasing circles , until it eventually disappears up it's own arse)
    It's a nice thought of globalists losing their money, but I don't see it happening.

    What I see instead is a greater push for world government. Nations are the last boundary these elites have, and they would love more than anything to get rid of this boundary.

    Eventually, it may reach a point where the elites of China and the elites of the West decide to unite for a world government. If that day ever comes, it will be the end of anything resembling a free society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    All they have left is influence through NGO's.....which is now exposed through the banishment by Hungary and Russia of any Soros backed organizations......a move that will more than likely spread through all of Europe eventually...not to mention the decrease of their financial power over the next year and beyond.Most of them are old anyway , and will be dropping dead soon enough. Even the Rothschilds are losing money and influence....there will be no "Great Reset" , except for maybe a failed attempt in the US.
    The development in Hungary is encouraging, but I think it may be more of the exception than the rule. There are a few nations willing to fight against the globalists, but they have to weather a lot of external interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    You're thinking too nationally. The elites that run the US run other countries as well, including yours.

    There is no incentive to restrict American interventionism, because it serves their interests. The profiteers of our interventionism are spread wide across the world.
    I don't doubt that they still have the incentive , but what has changed is their ability to execute the plans they have. Their main control mechanism is the global financial system , through the US Federal Reserve and the reserve banking system network throughout most countries .... which is now all but totally rooted through recession. Countries are steadily abandoning the US$ , in preference to dealing in their own currencies ,or euro or yuan , further reducing their influence on the global financial system , no matter how fast the FED can print US $'s to try to keep up , and the value of the USD is dropping fast . Australia is also on the hook , but not to the same degree as the US and Europe.....and a change of government in Australia will bring some big changes (both good and bad)....and Europe is slowly gravitating towards trade with both Russia and China , with a few government changes in European countries (such as France) set accelerate this even more. The IMF , World Bank and the World Economic Forum have pinned a great deal of hope on their "Great Reset" , but I doubt that will amount to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    It's a nice thought of globalists losing their money, but I don't see it happening.

    What I see instead is a greater push for world government. Nations are the last boundary these elites have, and they would love more than anything to get rid of this boundary.

    Eventually, it may reach a point where the elites of China and the elites of the West decide to unite for a world government. If that day ever comes, it will be the end of anything resembling a free society.
    I think you've been sold a false reality . The only thing that delivers a genuine free society , is economic prosperity , regardless if it's delivered by socialist governments , democracies or communists or anything else. There will be no world government . There is , already , a new multi-polar world order established and in place .......the US political elites just refuse to acknowledge it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I don't doubt that they still have the incentive , but what has changed is their ability to execute the plans they have. Their main control mechanism is the global financial system , through the US Federal Reserve and the reserve banking system network throughout most countries .... which is now all but totally rooted through recession. Countries are steadily abandoning the US$ , in preference to dealing in their own currencies ,or euro or yuan , further reducing their influence on the global financial system , no matter how fast the FED can print US $'s to try to keep up , and the value of the USD is dropping fast . Australia is also on the hook , but not to the same degree as the US and Europe.....and a change of government in Australia will bring some big changes (both good and bad)....and Europe is slowly gravitating towards trade with both Russia and China , with a few government changes in European countries (such as France) set accelerate this even more. The IMF , World Bank and the World Economic Forum have pinned a great deal of hope on their "Great Reset" , but I doubt that will amount to much.
    Even if they switch currencies, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of foreign elites invest in US military contractors. Granted, if they ever chose to stop investing in said contractors, they would likely still invest in Russian and Chinese ones, which have their own interventionist agendas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I think you've been sold a false reality . The only thing that delivers a genuine free society , is economic prosperity , regardless if it's delivered by socialist governments , democracies or communists or anything else. There will be no world government . There is , already , a new multi-polar world order established and in place .......the US political elites just refuse to acknowledge it
    ...except for the fact that socialist governments are incapable of providing prosperity. The same goes for communist ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    All they have left is influence through NGO's.....which is now exposed through the banishment by Hungary and Russia of any Soros backed organizations......a move that will more than likely spread through all of Europe eventually...not to mention the decrease of their financial power over the next year and beyond.Most of them are old anyway , and will be dropping dead soon enough. Even the Rothschilds are losing money and influence....there will be no "Great Reset" , except for maybe a failed attempt in the US.
    Hope you are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    You're thinking too nationally. The elites that run the US run other countries as well, including yours.

    There is no incentive to restrict American interventionism, because it serves their interests. The profiteers of our interventionism are spread wide across the world.
    Without American intervention, the social welfare programs of the developed world will crumble. The last thing they want is the US to withdraw.
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