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    President Biden and the 1776 Project

    Buried in the laundry list of items--17, I think--that now-President Biden repealed, by executive order, on his very first day in office, was former President Trump's 1776 Project.

    First, a little background:

    The 1619 Project--sponsored by The New York Times--is intent upon showing that America is really a quite bad country. (It is based upon Critical Race Theory, which is so beloved by the left.)

    The 1776 Project is named after that.

    Its purpose, of course, was exactly the opposite.

    Now, I really do not think that Joe Biden is a terrible person.

    I just think that he is a weak person--easily controlled by the far-left wing of his party (which now is quite substantial).

    In essence, President Biden--perhaps out of a combination of ignorance and disdain for his predecessor (and all things pertaining to him)--has now set us on a dangerous course.

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    tPF The 1776 Report (thepoliticalforums.com)

    Joe's* dismissal of the 1776 Project in favor of the Chinese funded 1619 Project is another indication that he is un-American.
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    Joe did the right thing. The 1776 report is partisan garbage, riddled with factual and historical mistakes.

    Here are the comments of a Princeton history professor explaining the serious flaws in the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Joe did the right thing. The 1776 report is partisan garbage, riddled with factual and historical mistakes.

    Here are the comments of a Princeton history professor explaining the serious flaws in the report.
    Do you have a link that doesn't block an ad blocker.

    I suspect the professors complaints are ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Do you have a link that doesn't block an ad blocker.

    I suspect the professors complaints are ridiculous.
    He's a Princeton history professor. I suspect that he knows more about this than you (or the people who wrote the 1776 report, none of whom are actually historians).

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...torians-trump/

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    He's a Princeton history professor. I suspect that he knows more about this than you (or the people who wrote the 1776 report, none of whom are actually historians).

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...torians-trump/
    There was at least one historian on the 1776 project, a history professor from Hillsdale College.


    While claiming to present a nonpartisan history, it compares progressivism to fascism
    That is very true. Fascism and the early US progressive movement were related.

    I suspect the detractors are fans of Critical Race Theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Joe did the right thing. The 1776 report is partisan garbage, riddled with factual and historical mistakes.

    Here are the comments of a Princeton history professor explaining the serious flaws in the report.
    I've seen this exact quote, on other political sites. Word for word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    I've seen this exact quote, on other political sites. Word for word.
    It's hilarious that @pjohns liked this comment, seeing as he's the one who reposts every single thread of his verbatim in multiple forums.

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    From Richie's link...

    According to the authors, the modern struggle for Black equality can be easily split into two separate and unequal stages. First, they say, there was the civil rights movement, which is pointedly presented here not as a revolutionary cause championed by African Americans in the South but rather "a national movement composed of people from different races, ethnicities, nationalities and religions" — effectively a precedent of the "All Lives Matter" rhetoric of our own time.
    "The civil rights movement culminated in the 1960s, with the passage of three major legislative reforms affecting segregation, voting, and housing rights," the report notes, reassuring readers that during this period the movement "presented itself, and was understood by the American people, as consistent with the principles of the founding."
    But, of course, the civil rights movement and the landmark legislation it prompted were deeply controversial at the time. Countless Americans opposed these laws and, pointedly, claimed that it was their resistance that reflected the "principles of the founding."
    OK, I agree with the first sentence. It's probably an oversimplification. It goes down hill from there. Does the author or anyone believe that the there is any contradiction between the idea that civil rights was a revolutionary cause championed by blacks in the south and that the idea that it was a national cause involving people of all different backgrounds? Are these mutually exclusive claims? Both claims are obviously true. Moreover, the latter claim had to be true or the movement could not have been successful. Whether they were "deeply controversial at the time" (and they undoubtedly were) is irrelevant. It is in fact true that a wide swath of the American public was won over by the civil rights movement and it in fact true that whites were active in the movement from the very beginning.

    Secondly, what does "effectively a precedent of All Lives Matter rhetoric" even mean? Does MSNBC think this poorly of their readership?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    From Richie's link...





    OK, I agree with the first sentence. It's probably an oversimplification. It goes down hill from there. Does the author or anyone believe that the there is any contradiction between the idea that civil rights was a revolutionary cause championed by blacks in the south and that the idea that it was a national cause involving people of all different backgrounds? Are these mutually exclusive claims? Both claims are obviously true. Moreover, the latter claim had to be true or the movement could not have been successful. Whether they were "deeply controversial at the time" (and they undoubtedly were) is irrelevant. It is in fact true that a wide swath of the American public was won over by the civil rights movement and it in fact true that whites were active in the movement from the very beginning.

    Secondly, what does "effectively a precedent of All Lives Matter rhetoric" even mean? Does MSNBC think this poorly of their readership?
    That link fails to mention the obvious, it was Democrats who resisted the Civil Rights Movement: "When Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1957, for instance, he pointedly recited the entire Declaration of Independence to link his act of defiance to the colonists' acts. When Gov. George Wallace of Alabama denounced the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 at a segregationist rally, he, too, claimed that segregationists were like the "stalwart patriots" of the American Revolution."

    And if he were honest he'd say something about the difference between the Civil Rights Movement and the new CRT-based identity politics. One united much of a nation under an ideal of equality while the other divides a nation racially.
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