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    If you forgo the impeachment process you are effectively saying that any President where his party controls the Senate can do anything he wants without ever being held accountable for his actions. The Republican Senate in the first impeachment tuned it into a political event where Trump was certainly guilty as charged but the Senate either out of fear of retribution from Trump's base or partisan political reasons failed to do their duty. But as Susan Collins said " Trump probably leaned his lesson". Tell that to the family's of the officers who died at the capital insurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgf View Post
    If you forgo the impeachment process you are effectively saying that any President where his party controls the Senate can do anything he wants without ever being held accountable for his actions. The Republican Senate in the first impeachment tuned it into a political event where Trump was certainly guilty as charged but the Senate either out of fear of retribution from Trump's base or partisan political reasons failed to do their duty. But as Susan Collins said " Trump probably leaned his lesson". Tell that to the family's of the officers who died at the capital insurrection.
    This trial will be worse than the first with even less evidence.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgf View Post
    If you forgo the impeachment process you are effectively saying that any President where his party controls the Senate can do anything he wants without ever being held accountable for his actions. The Republican Senate in the first impeachment tuned it into a political event where Trump was certainly guilty as charged but the Senate either out of fear of retribution from Trump's base or partisan political reasons failed to do their duty. But as Susan Collins said " Trump probably leaned his lesson". Tell that to the family's of the officers who died at the capital insurrection.
    Sorry rgf, the Democratic Party, during B Clinton's impeachment, set the bar pretty high in declaring perjury and Obstruction of justice didn't merit a guilty vote. Then with Trump lowered that same bar for partisan politics. Impeachment means nothing anymore.

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    To move on, drop the Trump impeachment trial

    That would be the smart thing to do in order to help heal the divide, but that’s obviously not what the Democrats want. They want to completely silence and humiliate the 74 million people who voted for Trump. It’s not going to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Sorry rgf, the Democratic Party, during B Clinton's impeachment, set the bar pretty high in declaring perjury and Obstruction of justice didn't merit a guilty vote. Then with Trump lowered that same bar for partisan politics. Impeachment means nothing anymore.
    Given that one Republican member of Congress filed articles of impeachment against Joe Biden on the day he took office, impeachment obviously means something.

    It just conveniently means nothing when it's your tribe member who is impeached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBrian View Post
    Given that one Republican member of Congress filed articles of impeachment against Joe Biden on the day he took office, impeachment obviously means something.

    It just conveniently means nothing when it's your tribe member who is impeached.
    Actually your screed makes my point, impeachment means nothing anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I almost feel bad for Biden. It's as if he's not really the focus of his own Presidency and he knows it. Anyway, the impeachment represents nothing more than a propaganda campaign to keep Democrats active and interested.
    Good point. He is putting out countless EOs and getting little press for them as the MSM is still infatuated with Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgf View Post
    If you forgo the impeachment process you are effectively saying that any President where his party controls the Senate can do anything he wants without ever being held accountable for his actions. The Republican Senate in the first impeachment tuned it into a political event where Trump was certainly guilty as charged but the Senate either out of fear of retribution from Trump's base or partisan political reasons failed to do their duty. But as Susan Collins said " Trump probably leaned his lesson". Tell that to the family's of the officers who died at the capital insurrection.
    Well the constitution means little under the scum in Washington but it states a SITTING POTUS can be impeached. TRUMP is gone right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Wouldn't it help unification?
    No, it will not unify the country like it didn't unify the country after the first civil war. The North should NEVER have allowed those who took up arms against the country to walk free. Let us not make the same mistake we did back then by giving traitors a pass.

    They need to be tried, their citizenship revoked and either jailed or deported. Let's see how they fair when they're begging other countries to take pity on them and grant them asylum. I hope those countries take their children from them, stick them in cages, and send the parents on their way with a tent to live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana View Post
    Well the constitution means little under the scum in Washington but it states a SITTING POTUS can be impeached. TRUMP is gone right ?
    It doesn't say that a federal official subject to impeachment can evade punishment by leaving office. In fact, while debating the scope of the impeachment clause, the framers specifically discussed as a model a very recent impeachment in England. In that case, a former government official was impeached by the House of Commons and tried by the House of Lords even though he had already resigned. And Congress has previously impeached and tried officials after they left office. Subjecting Trump to a Senate trial is perfectly consistent with established precedent.

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