What are your unity demands?

[TheLiquidGuy]

It was a bad ruling. The law in question prohibited the use of things like student IDs. North Carolina has a non-driver photo ID available at any DMV office. There is absolutely no legitimate reason why any registered voter cannot get one.

"Surgical precision"

I don't believe it was coincidence that the same law also sought to reduce the early voting period from 17 to 10 days, stop same day registration, and stop pre-registration of teenagers that would be of age by voting day. None of these can easily be argued to reduce fraud. The common theme of the law was clearly to reduce voting in general.
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Since I have provided you with examples of voter suppression, maybe you could return me the favor and tell me why you are so convinced that the election was stolen. Can you give me your #1 best piece of evidence? Whatever it was that made it clear that the election was rigged to you.

I have asked this question 20 times on this forum. So far not one person has ever answered. I am beginning to think that the belief in election fraud is not rational, but just base emotion. Can you give me your top candidate for proof of consequential fraud? Please don't flood me though. Just your top choice.

[TheLiquidGuy]

What did you think false narratives about murderous cops and systemic racism did? Bring us together? Or got a people injured and killed in the riots those narratives incited?

I haven't seen Biden say "murderous cops". It doesn't seem like the kind of thing he would say. Do you have a quote?


As for systemic racism, I am not sure I understand how you can call that divisive. Systemic racism does not single out a large group of society and criticize them. My understanding of "systemic racism" is that it criticizes "the system", not any group of persons.

Do you feel that your group, whatever that may be, is targeted by Biden when he calls to end it? I am really asking. I do not understand how systemic racism is "dividing" the country. Please help me understand your position.

[Peter1469]

$#@! Joe*.

Biden was on TV this afternoon making a case for a new bill to add COVID relief. I didn't hear the entirety, but I heard a good deal of the speech.

What I didn't hear at all: Biden attacking Republicans, making any claims that they'd stall or try to gut the bill. He mocked no one, derided no one, called no one by invented adjective/first name names.

He simply made points about how such a bill would bring our economy back.

That's a pretty good example of unity, if you ask me.

[Peter1469]

Dont know if gerrymandering occurs in those states. But I am sure there are some democrats that do it. The problem is that Republicans do it far more than dems.

That is because citizens tend to elect Repubs at the local level.

Elections have consequences. That is why SCOTUS has no problem with political gerrymandering. The people vote for it.

[TheLiquidGuy]

North Carolina's voter ID law was upheld a few months ago in federal court. The same specious objections were made but to no effect.

I found the law you were referring to. As I suspected, you were being dishonest, again. This was not the same law. This was an amendment to the NC Constitution requiring that voting ID have a photo. The old rejected law was more extensive and more targeted.

Interestingly, in upholding the amendment the court also commented...

"In its decision the court acknowledged that "there is a long and shameful history of race-based voter suppression in North Carolina." But it also pointed out that acts of a past legislative body do not mean that current bodies are inherently not acting with good intentions."

[Mister D]

I found the law you were referring to. As I suspected, you were being dishonest, again. This was not the same law. This was an amendment to the NC Constitution requiring that voting ID have a photo. The old rejected law was more extensive and more targeted.

Interestingly, in upholding the amendment the court also commented...

"In its decision the court acknowledged that "there is a long and shameful history of race-based voter suppression in North Carolina." But it also pointed out that acts of a past legislative body do not mean that current bodies are inherently not acting with good intentions."

Was that so hard?

I didn't say it was the same law. I said NC's voter ID law was upheld in federal court this past December and that the same specious arguments were made against it only this time to no effect.

What's interesting is that the court told Democrats that the entire gist of their objection lacked merit. ROFL. Thanks I agree. That was very interesting.

[Mister D]

I haven't seen Biden say "murderous cops". It doesn't seem like the kind of thing he would say. Do you have a quote?


As for systemic racism, I am not sure I understand how you can call that divisive. Systemic racism does not single out a large group of society and criticize them. My understanding of "systemic racism" is that it criticizes "the system", not any group of persons.

Do you feel that your group, whatever that may be, is targeted by Biden when he calls to end it? I am really asking. I do not understand how systemic racism is "dividing" the country. Please help me understand your position.

Who said anything about Biden? Biden supported racist policies for decades and you just voted for him. Hypocrite. Anyway, that was the narrative given to us by the media and Democrats, including you, all year. It caused a great deal of hatred, injury, destruction and death. But what do you care? Hypocrite.

The system isn't racist. People like you incited riots over a lie. Well, several lies. Disgusting. You should be be ashamed of yourself.

You can't call and end to something that doesn't exist. Still peddling these lies. Sad.

[TheLiquidGuy]

That is because citizens tend to elect Repubs at the local level.

Elections have consequences. That is why SCOTUS has no problem with political gerrymandering. The people vote for it.

First, you are lying. The Supreme Court did not say they have no problem with gerrymandering.

"WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that federal courts are powerless to hear challenges to partisan gerrymandering, ..." --NYT

Your position is reprehensible and intuitively indefensible. I know you hate democracy and I get why, but democracy is better than the alternative. You favor subverting the will of the people and entrenching forever one-party-rule/dictatorship. You probably like to think that isn't so, but that is the inescapable truth.

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Gerrymandering is evil and cheating. You favor it. That makes you an evil cheater in my book.

[Mister D]

Gerrymandering is evil...until Democrats do it. Then I bet it's not even gerrymandering. lol

[Peter1469]

First, you are lying. The Supreme Court did not say they have no problem with gerrymandering.

"WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that federal courts are powerless to hear challenges to partisan gerrymandering, ..." --NYT

When you call me a liar and then post this stupid $#@! it makes you look like a stupid fool.

I said SCOTUS has no problem with political gerrymandering. The link that doesn't work above seems to agree with that.

What SCOTUS watches for is racial gerrymandering.

Your position is reprehensible and intuitively indefensible. I know you hate democracy and I get why, but democracy is better than the alternative. You favor subverting the will of the people and entrenching forever one-party-rule/dictatorship. You probably like to think that isn't so, but that is the inescapable truth.

Gerrymandering is evil and cheating. You favor it. That makes you an evil cheater in my book.

You position is foolish, stupid, emotional, and against US case law.

If you need to emote talk to Trish. I don't give a $#@! about how you feel about a topic.