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    The Fight for a $15 Minimum Wage Is a Fight for Racial Justice

    According to Rev. William Barber: The Fight for a $15 Minimum Wage Is a Fight for Racial Justice. He says "We cannot address racial equity if we do not address the minimum wage of $15." To be fair he sort of mixed up.

    But according to the U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS: Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2018 (.pdf)

    ...Age. Minimum wage workers tend to be young. Although workers under age 25 represented only about one-fifth of hourly paid workers, they made up just under half of those paid the federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers (ages 16 to 19) paid by the hour, about 8 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with about 1 percent of workers age 25 and older. (See tables 1 and 7.)

    Gender. Among workers who were paid hourly rates in 2018, about 3 percent of women and about 2 percent of men had wages at or below the prevailing federal minimum. (See table 1.)

    Race and Hispanic or Latino ethnicity. The percentage of hourly paid workers with wages at or below the federal minimum differed little among the major race and ethnicity groups. About 3 percent of Black or African American workers earned the federal minimum wage or less. Among White, Asian, and Hispanic workers, the percentage was about 2 percent. (See table 1.)
    In short, it discriminates against youth. And that is exactly who would be harmed the most by an increase in the minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    According to Rev. William Barber: The Fight for a $15 Minimum Wage Is a Fight for Racial Justice. He says "We cannot address racial equity if we do not address the minimum wage of $15." To be fair he sort of mixed up.

    But according to the U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS: Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2018 (.pdf)



    In short, it discriminates against youth. And that is exactly who would be harmed the most by an increase in the minimum wage.
    It "discriminates" against the inexperienced. A rise in minimum wage will further erode entry level jobs for those with no work experience. Minimum wage was never meant to be a career but to allow those with no experience to at least learn what it means to work or to gain experience so they can work their way up the ladder

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    That's a lie. The fight for the higher minimum wage means a $7 an hour raise for many unions including government workers. There wages are normally indexed on the minimum wage and would go up the equivalent amount.

    2/3rds of the minimum wage jobs are held by whites

    Remember the CBO did not say 1.4 million jobs would be lost. That was what the MSM reported. The CBO estimate was between 1.4 and 2.8 million.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-by-ethnicity/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    According to Rev. William Barber: The Fight for a $15 Minimum Wage Is a Fight for Racial Justice. He says "We cannot address racial equity if we do not address the minimum wage of $15." To be fair he sort of mixed up.

    But according to the U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS: Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2018 (.pdf)



    In short, it discriminates against youth. And that is exactly who would be harmed the most by an increase in the minimum wage.
    How about a minimum wage based on age?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    How about a minimum wage based on age?
    That's just it, raise it for teenagers and you'll close off many entry-level jobs they might get a start in the working word with.
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    Raise the minimum wage everyone is going to raise. They will go from 25 dollars an hour to 33 dollars an hour. The price of everything will go up. Then, 15 dollars will the poor right where they are. Mission accomplished.
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    It will do some of everything mentioned in this thread. Starting with the elimination of jobs for teens and students and also raising prices for consumers.

    BTW unions do the same as far as prices go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That's just it, raise it for teenagers and you'll close off many entry-level jobs they might get a start in the working word with.
    Would it be unreasonable to ask for an example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    Would it be unreasonable to ask for an example?
    Sure, my first job as a kid was delivering newspapers for a small-town paper. They never could have paid my $15 or the equivalent back then. That job led to a job editing the advertisement section, which again they could not have paid me $15 an hour. I learned a lot from that job that I've applied all my life. Why should the government deprive American youth those opportunities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Sure, my first job as a kid was delivering newspapers for a small-town paper. They never could have paid my $15 or the equivalent back then. That job led to a job editing the advertisement section, which again they could not have paid me $15 an hour. I learned a lot from that job that I've applied all my life. Why should the government deprive American youth those opportunities?
    I remember the days of delivering papers via bicycle. Most paper delivery routes today require a vehicle. Said vehicle requires licensing, insurance and maintinance. Those times have changed.
    That being said it costs more to deliver a paper than it does to work on a construction site.
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