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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Don't forget that jimmy Carter signed the Refugee Act of 1980 making the ceiling of refugees for a single year 50,000. It has not legally been raised.

    https://www.archivesfoundation.org/d...ugee-act-1980/


    The Geneva Convention dictates the rules of first country of Asylum and we signed onto this standard by our signing the 1967 Protocol, which incorporates the Convention by reference.

    I think under Obama that number was 110,000. (Something like that) and under Trump it was reduced to 15,000? (I could be wrong on the exact numbers but something along those lines) In the article you posted, it mentions that the bill that was passed was done with flexibility in mind. I'm guessing the power was granted to the President on what the ceiling should be. Meaning, no legal action by Congress is needed. (This is just a guess)

    What exactly are the rules of 'first country Asylum" Does it dictated that it'd be a neighboring country.. Doesn't seem like there's a single country that operates under such rules. European countries got flooded with migrants and countries like Italy had asked countries to the north to take some pressure off by taking in some of the refugees in the Syria fiasco but no mention ever of Trukey having to bore the responsibility as the neighbor or anything like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    Go read back and look at the utter stupidity you posted and marvel at it, troll!
    That would be an excellent example of irony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    That would be an excellent example of irony.

    I can't believe it but I'll actually try and chew the food for you so that you can swallow...

    You see, you never actually add anything to the debate. You just make snidy remarks... That is known as trolling. With me so far??? (I doubt it) Here however, you actually did attempt to say something of relevance and well, it was stupid. (illogical) like 'people who weren't given the opportunity to present their case, have no case'. That was your logic exactly. Kind of like saying that if you can't see a virus with your naked eye, it doesn't exist...

    Go in the corner and think. (You're not actually capable of that, are you?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    I think under Obama that number was 110,000. (Something like that) and under Trump it was reduced to 15,000? (I could be wrong on the exact numbers but something along those lines) In the article you posted, it mentions that the bill that was passed was done with flexibility in mind. I'm guessing the power was granted to the President on what the ceiling should be. Meaning, no legal action by Congress is needed. (This is just a guess)

    What exactly are the rules of 'first country Asylum" Does it dictated that it'd be a neighboring country.. Doesn't seem like there's a single country that operates under such rules. European countries got flooded with migrants and countries like Italy had asked countries to the north to take some pressure off by taking in some of the refugees in the Syria fiasco but no mention ever of Trukey having to bore the responsibility as the neighbor or anything like that.
    The First Country rule is for mass migrations. Individual nations can declare they want specific asylum seekers like the US did with the well educated Soviet/Russian Jews. And how the US takes in interpreters from Iraq and Afghanistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The First Country rule is for mass migrations. Individual nations can declare they want specific asylum seekers like the US did with the well educated Soviet/Russian Jews. And how the US takes in interpreters from Iraq and Afghanistan.
    That rule was never mentioned in the fiasco that followed the Syrian war so I'm a bit skeptical on that matter. Also, what does constitute a mass migration? Hundreds, thousands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    That rule was never mentioned in the fiasco that followed the Syrian war so I'm a bit skeptical on that matter. Also, what does constitute a mass migration? Hundreds, thousands?
    Yes it was. That is why Italy, Greece and Turkey were overwhelmed. The Balkins said screw that and fenced off the borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes it was. That is why Italy, Greece and Turkey were overwhelmed. The Balkins said screw that and fenced off the borders.
    Yeah but that wasn't because of any rule as much as it was the only place for them to actually try and run too. That's just geography, not law.. Besides, neither Italy nor Greece share a border with Syria. I haven't heard anything from Turkey on the matter but both Greece and Italy cut deals with other European nations to soften the blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    Yeah but that wasn't because of any rule as much as it was the only place for them to actually try and run too. That's just geography, not law.. Besides, neither Italy nor Greece share a border with Syria. I haven't heard anything from Turkey on the matter but both Greece and Italy cut deals with other European nations to soften the blow.
    Geography often drives the first nation rule. And under that rule, other asylum nations are suppose to work with the first nations to take some of the migrants to ease the strain. In addition to international law, that is EU law.
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    The vast majority of Democrats essentially ignore federal law when it comes to immigration, in all honesty they're accomplices to those crimes. But they get to break federal law, you don't. You're a pleb.

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    It's like forced adoption.

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