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    Most Army helicopter types are either named after an Indian tribe or has a nickname based on a tribe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Most Army helicopter types are either named after an Indian tribe or has a nickname based on a tribe.
    The Native Americans were fierce warriors and cunning fighters. Too bad they didn't have guns first, We'd be paying them rent.
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    I had an agri product named after me. I don't mind. I consider it an honor

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    The Native Americans were fierce warriors and cunning fighters. Too bad they didn't have guns first, We'd be paying them rent.
    They were essentially in the Stone Age when Euros got here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    They were essentially in the Stone Age when Euros got here.
    I've always found that interesting, why the americas was so far behind in development.

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    Here is a bit of news in regards to the people who keep claiming that it's all treated as a 'negative connation'. James Caldwell school kept their name and logo, against an out of towner who felt 'offended'. Has some personal meaning to me, as I grew up in that general area.

    Caldwell-West Caldwell schools to keep Chiefs name, logo | The Progress News | newjerseyhills.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    I've always found that interesting, why the americas was so far behind in development.
    War, enmasse, drives industrialization. The Native Americans had no such pressure on them. They lived a simpler live that didn't require such activities.
    War between "nations" was almost non-existent. Couple that with being isolated from the rest of the modern world, and you get total conquest by modern methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    War, enmasse, drives industrialization. The Native Americans had no such pressure on them. They lived a simpler live that didn't require such activities.
    War between "nations" was almost non-existent. Couple that with being isolated from the rest of the modern world, and you get total conquest by modern methods.
    They had very savage wars against tribes that didn't drive technological advancement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    They had very savage wars against tribes.
    It was rare. Most native Americans were too busy for wars.
    Wars are usually based on holding territory and/or acquiring more territory to settle. Native Americans had no such philosophy about real estate. And it was hard to offend an entire Indian Nation.
    They took no prisoners because they knew they couldn't feed them, Of course thee was an exception to rules. Sometimes women were taken to replace those lost during raids or other natural causes.
    Now, I'm talking about those on the North American and not those from South or Central America: Aztec, Incas, and Mayans. Those were central states and more likely to go to war with neighboring *states* for resources: Slaves and food. Some were used for sacrifice only. But they too were consumed by European tactics.
    The plains Indians were nomadic and simply moved to keep their tribes alive and well fed.
    A central State for them was the total area west of the Mississippi. They didn't fight over real estate because they actually believed that no one "owned" the land. If there were conflicts, it was usually of a personal nature and not political.
    I had four semester of North American Indian history as part of my minor of anthro.
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