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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Afghanistan is nothing but bad choices. The question is what is the least of the bad choices.
    I don't see a US withdrawal as bad for the US.

    It may be bad for the educated and the female members of Afghan society. But that isn't our problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I don't see a US withdrawal as bad for the US.

    It may be bad for the educated and the female members of Afghan society. But that isn't our problem.
    True. Were we to totally withdraw the Taliban will simply take over. That won’t look good. I understand your position though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    True. Were we to totally withdraw the Taliban will simply take over. That won’t look good. I understand your position though.
    There will be a turd in every teapot.

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    The Biden Administration Is Taking Steps To Stay In Iraq Forever.....


    The new administration’s goals for the war in Iraq, at least as briefly outlined last Tuesday to the United Nations Security Council, are likely to prolong U.S. involvement indefinitely.
    “Among its top priorities, the United States will seek to help Iraq assert its sovereignty in the face of enemies, at home and abroad, by preventing an ISIS resurgence and working toward Iraq’s stability,” Deputy U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Richard Mills told his fellow diplomats. That means facilitating free and fair elections, Mills continued, plus fighting Iran-linked militias and terrorist groups like the Islamic State, as well as funneling money toward economic development, humanitarian improvements, and the elimination of corruption. “The United States will remain a steady, reliable partner for Iraq, and for the Iraqi people,” he concluded, “today and in the future.”


    That’s an understatement. With goals as expansive and flexible as these, the United States will have a military presence and roster of associated nation-building projects in Iraq not only through the end of the Biden administration but for decades to come.

    Biden campaigned on a promise to “end the forever wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East.....snip~


    Joe.....Just flat out lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Biden Administration Is Taking Steps To Stay In Iraq Forever.....


    The new administration’s goals for the war in Iraq, at least as briefly outlined last Tuesday to the United Nations Security Council, are likely to prolong U.S. involvement indefinitely.
    “Among its top priorities, the United States will seek to help Iraq assert its sovereignty in the face of enemies, at home and abroad, by preventing an ISIS resurgence and working toward Iraq’s stability,” Deputy U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Richard Mills told his fellow diplomats. That means facilitating free and fair elections, Mills continued, plus fighting Iran-linked militias and terrorist groups like the Islamic State, as well as funneling money toward economic development, humanitarian improvements, and the elimination of corruption. “The United States will remain a steady, reliable partner for Iraq, and for the Iraqi people,” he concluded, “today and in the future.”


    That’s an understatement. With goals as expansive and flexible as these, the United States will have a military presence and roster of associated nation-building projects in Iraq not only through the end of the Biden administration but for decades to come.

    Biden campaigned on a promise to “end the forever wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East.....snip~


    Joe.....Just flat out lied.

    The Iraqi Sunnis and Kurds want the US there. It is very different from Afghanistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Iraqi Sunnis and Kurds want the US there. It is very different from Afghanistan.
    And the majority of Shia dont want us there. In Iraq.



    as well as funneling money toward economic development, humanitarian improvements, and the elimination of corruption....snip~


    Not our problem and we shouldnt be wasting money on the Iraqis Problems. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    True. Were we to totally withdraw the Taliban will simply take over. That won’t look good. I understand your position though.
    Ah, optics over American lives in an unwinnable conflict. Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    And the majority of Shia dont want us there. In Iraq.



    as well as funneling money toward economic development, humanitarian improvements, and the elimination of corruption....snip~


    Not our problem and we shouldnt be wasting money on the Iraqis Problems. .
    I agree. I was just saying Iraq is very different from Afghanistan regarding a US presence there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I agree. I was just saying Iraq is very different from Afghanistan regarding a US presence there.
    Even if Afghanistan was to make it to the point where Iraq is.....The Pentagon would still look for a way for us to be there forever. They would use the same exact response. As they arent all that bright.


    “Among its top priorities, the United States will seek to help Afghanistan assert its sovereignty in the face of enemies, at home and abroad, by preventing an ISIS resurgence and working toward Afghanistan's stability,” That means facilitating free and fair elections, plus fighting Iran-linked militias and terrorist groups like the Islamic State, as well as funneling money toward economic development, humanitarian improvements, and the elimination of corruption. “The United States will remain a steady, reliable partner for Afghanistan, and for the Afghani people,” “today and in the future.”....snip~
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