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Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
You can ask the question but most would tell you you're wrong. The rest wouldn't understand what you mean or know how to respond.Faith is the belief in something you can't prove. You are asking a question that has no answer.
https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html
The Big Bang Theory is the leading explanation about how the universe began. At its simplest, it says the universe as we know it started with a small singularity, then inflated over the next 13.8 billion years tthe cosmos that we know today.Because current instruments don't allow astronomers to peer back at the universe's birth, much of what we understand about the Big Bang Theory comes from mathematical formulas and models. Astronomers can, however, see the "echo" of the expansion through a phenomenon known as the cosmic microwave background.
While the majority of the astronomical community accepts the theory, there are some theorists who have alternative explanations besides the Big Bang — such as eternal inflation or an oscillating universe.
I can't prove God and the smartest people on Earth can't prove the Big Bang Theory.
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Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
You're right. Nevertheless, I do think it's a reasonable enough explanation of why people tend to believe in gods. As for the question of proof, I will go out on a limb here and predict that this thread will end at some point without any even reasonably compelling "proof" being offered. Not because I'm prejudging anything or rejecting any arguments beforehand; it's just that countless philosophers and theological scholars have, collectively, spent centuries attempting to come up with such objective evidence without success.
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MisterVeritis (03-07-2021)
But we do know that all human societies ponder these unknowns. Relatively speaking, very few believe these unknows came about by random chance. The faith traditions believe something guided these processes but of course don't agree in the detail. And many of those think it is the honest search that matters rather than the following of route tradition, like learning 3+4=7 with no ability to explain why that is.
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Sybil Ludington (03-06-2021)
Okay, I get it. Just a brief note about the idea that a personal afterlife might be something developed "rather late in the history of our species, though. While by no means conclusive, there have been some discoveries suggesting that even Neandertals may have had some thoughts in that direction.
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https://www.discovermagazine.com/pla...-the-afterlife
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
Mister D (03-06-2021)
Who is judging Man's "sense of right and wrong" to be so far removed from the natural world as to indicate a supernatural origin? Wouldn't that be Man himself? Isn't this just another instance of human beings standing back and admiring something about themselves and marveling at their own innate virtue? Saying, in effect, "We're so smart and good it MUST have been a god that made us so!"?
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
MisterVeritis (03-07-2021)
In general relativity the chair that I am sitting in is a chair. In quantum physics the atoms that make up my chair are not a chair. We only perceive that collections of atoms as a chair when we observe the object (or sit in it). Those atoms could be anything else.
This unknown is what faith traditions are trying to answer. And it is why science came out of religious inquiry. That changed with the Enlightenment where science rejected everything that it could not measure.
Today quantum physics is returning to the pre-enlightenment age. The answers we discover will change us more than advances of the pure age of enlightenment.
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