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    Navy Still Considering Bringing Back US 1st Fleet

    I guess the 1st fleet would take the southern part of the 7th Fleet's current area of operations. That would put a US fleet to China's north and east and a second to the south.

    Something tells me the CCP doesn't approve.

    Navy Still Considering Bringing Back US 1st Fleet

    The former Navy secretary's call to reactivate a numbered fleet in the Pacific to counter China's growing maritime power is still under consideration, a top military leader said this week.

    Adm. John Aquilino, commander of U.S. Pacific Fleet, is studying the pros and cons of bringing back U.S. First Fleet, Adm. Phil Davidson, the head of Indo-Pacific Command, said Wednesday. The possible resurrection of the fleet, which was last active in the 1970s, was announced in November by then-Navy Secretary Kenneth Braithwaite.



    Braithwaite said the goal was to base the future First Fleet between the Indian and Pacific oceans. Aquilino has been asked by Navy leadership to "look at some options for what First Fleet might do," Davidson told members of the House Armed Services Committee.


    "He's still in the process of developing what the concepts might be, what the impacts ... are and how it'll affect Seventh Fleet -- and some of our relationships out there as well," Davidson said.



    Seventh Fleet, which is based in Japan, is the Navy's largest forward-deployed fleet and the only one in the Asia-Pacific region. It covers a huge area stretching from India down to Antarctica and up past Japan to the Kuril Islands.


    The fleet has anywhere from 50 to 70 ships and submarines assigned to it throughout the year, but Davidson said demand for naval forces in the Asia-Pacific region is only likely to increase as China flexes its power in the region. The presence of an aircraft carrier in the Pacific is especially important, he said.


    "There is no capability that we have that can substitute for an aircraft carrier, in my view," Davidson said.


    The Navy used the command that would eventually become First Fleet from 1943 to 1973. If it comes back, experts told Stars and Stripes that Singapore or Australia could make good basing options.


    Braithwaite said last year that a fleet for the Indo and South Asian region will reassure allies while making sure potential adversaries know the U.S. is committed to global presence to ensure freedom of the seas.
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    We need to do it.....Chi-na has over 624 ships. We are operating only 289.


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    A Resurrected First Fleet Is the Weapon the Navy Needs to Counter China, Former SecNav Says

    Having another numbered fleet in the Pacific would be aimed at deterring that country's military. China has been investing heavily in its navy and has militarized islands in the region.
    The Navy command that eventually became U.S. First Fleet was active from 1943 to 1973. Seventh Fleet is currently the only numbered fleet in the Asia-Pacific region. Based in Japan, it's the Navy's biggest forward-deployed fleet with anywhere from 50 to 70 ships and submarines assigned to it, but it covers a huge area stretching from India down to Antarctica and up past Japan.


    "You're talking about the largest ocean of the world, and you're talking about an area of responsibility currently for the Seventh Fleet that takes most of the Western Pacific and the South China Sea, which ... has become an area of increased tension, and then the entire Indian Ocean all the way over to where the Fifth Fleet [area of responsibility] begins," Braithwaite said. "So, there's a real void there."


    He said details about where a future First Fleet would be based and what ships and personnel should be assigned to it remain "the devil in the details."


    Davidson said last month that Adm. John Aquilino, commander of U.S. Pacific Fleet, is studying some of those points.


    Allies and partners in the region have embraced the idea, Braithwaite said, including India, Singapore and Japan.



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    China has 363 Combat ready vessels. Yet Biden is dicking around with making any determination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    China has 363 Combat ready vessels. Yet Biden is dicking around with making any determination.
    The defense budget is the only part not being increased for the 2022 budget build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The defense budget is the only part not being increased for the 2022 budget build.
    Should Chi-na or Russia attack our assets and Biden does nothing. Democrats will be burnt toast in the next election.
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    Wait.. this might hurt the feelings of the Chinese people
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