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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    No, Team Mueller saw to that, remember, "did not establish" a conspiracy or coordination. Do try and keep up.
    Why don’t you ever quote that full sentence? Are you being vague intentionally?

    Mueller only “did not establish” conspiracy. He did not make this statement for obstruction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    When Mueller indicated he didn't know of Fusion GPS that pretty much told all the Mueller investigation was in name only. Tis why I refer it as Team Mueller. As far as honesty by Team Mueller, that went out the window when revelations appeared that they withheld exculpatory evidence in the Flynn case. One wonders what else they withheld or lied about throughout the investigation.
    Lies.

    Team Mueller withheld no evidence in the Flynn case. To this day there have never been any sanctions, or even rebukes. There have only been filings by the defense. No action.

    Say its been sunny outside for weeks. If today it is also not raining outside and i fail to tell you it’s not raining outside, that doesn’t mean i am withholding information from you about the weather. You ought to know its sunny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    IIRC, Mueller was forbiden to investigate Trumps finances, which is usually the easiest was to catch criminals.

    Also, Mueller did not do a counter-intelligence investigation, he only looked for illegal behavior (while not being allowed to look into finances).

    hands tied.
    *IIRC, Mueller was forbiden to investigate Trumps finances, which is usually the easiest was to catch criminals.*

    The House Financial Services and Intelligence committees were investigating that, they even subpoenaed Deutsche Bank, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup, about Trumps business dealings, finances and potential Russian money laundering. I guess nothing came of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    I have found this tactic (if you want to call it that) most prevalent among Republicans. .
    No you haven't.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Why don’t you ever quote that full sentence? Are you being vague intentionally?

    Mueller only “did not establish” conspiracy. He did not make this statement for obstruction.
    Why don't you post the entire sentence and tell me how that independent clause changes ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Lies.

    Team Mueller withheld no evidence in the Flynn case. To this day there have never been any sanctions, or even rebukes. There have only been filings by the defense. No action.

    Say its been sunny outside for weeks. If today it is also not raining outside and i fail to tell you it’s not raining outside, that doesn’t mean i am withholding information from you about the weather. You ought to know its sunny.
    The DOJ submitted the exculpatory evidence to Judge Sullivan when they drop all charges against Flynn.

    We've been over this countless times TLG.

    I don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Why don't you post the entire sentence and tell me how that independent clause changes ??
    Here is the entire sentence.

    "Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."


    Highlighting my favorite parts


    Didn't realize that you were specific this time. I guess i got used to you just quoting those three words all the time without context.


    Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    The DOJ submitted the exculpatory evidence to Judge Sullivan when they drop all charges against Flynn.

    We've been over this countless times TLG.

    I don't lie.
    No rebuke. no sanctions. no biggie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Here is the entire sentence.

    "Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."


    Highlighting my favorite parts


    Didn't realize that you were specific this time. I guess i got used to you just quoting those three words all the time without context.


    Good job.
    Nothing you highlighted changes the last part of the sentence which is an independent clause;

    "the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

    Get use to it, "did not establish" a conspiracy or coordination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    No rebuke. no sanctions. no biggie.
    Withholding exculpatory evidence is prosecutorial malfeasance, the evidence of malfeasance is irrefutable.

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