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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    "Right wing" and "left wing" are wholly subjective concepts to begin with. There's no such thing as an individual person's definition thereof being correct or false therefore. All it is is a collective opinion to begin with. Therefore, the prevailing definitions actually do matter and are kind of defining by nature.
    If right wing and left wing are subjective what good does it do to use the terms? You could never know if your target audience uses right or left in the same way.

    Occasionally I remind people the definition that I use: right = the absence of organized government. Add government as you move left towards totalitarianism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I'm just telling you how most people evaluate these things and my OP reflected the common persuasion thereabout. I don't have the energy here to get into an elaborate debate about anti-white racism supposedly taking over America. I mean most people don't believe that's the case and that's because it's just not.
    It's not just anti-white racism that is the problem, it's Democrats who think black and brown people are too stupid to produce an ID card. It's a Democrat Party who pretends to care about black and brown people, but couldn't advance a single person of color to run for POTUS.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    First of all National Socialism was Socialism as it was executed by the Nazi party in Germany in the mid 20th century.

    What you are talking about is a totally different movement lead by crazy people that are happening to us the symbolism of the Nazi party of mid 20th century Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    "Right wing" and "left wing" are wholly subjective concepts to begin with. There's no such thing as an individual person's definition thereof being correct or false therefore. All it is is a collective opinion to begin with. Therefore, the prevailing definitions actually do matter and are kind of defining by nature.
    So you double down on your false and fallacious claim.

    And in doing so you contradict yourself. First you say defiitions are subjective, i.e., individual; and then you say they are collective.

    I think you probably mean they are relative, which is true. When we speak of Nazis, we are speaking of Germany between World Wars when the conservative rightwing Weimar Republic was failing the German people as the Great Depression hit. Socialism arose to address that situation. There were essentially two branches of socialism, one national, the Nazis, and the other global, the communists. Both were anti-democratic, anti-liberal, anti-capitalist, authoritarian, racist, antisemitic, etc. That is history.

    Of course popular misconceptions are important and you, a history teacher, ought to renounce them for historical facts. But you don't. Doing so would not serve your postmodern, neoMarxist agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It's not just anti-white racism that is the problem, it's Democrats who think black and brown people are too stupid to produce an ID card. It's a Democrat Party who pretends to care about black and brown people, but couldn't advance a single person of color to run for POTUS.
    Yea I'm not sure where she came up with the anti-white racism thing.
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    Confused people making decisions is not a good idea.
    Children making the decision for themselves is a terrible idea.
    Adults making decisions for kids is a terrible idea and probably reflect the views and instability of the adult than the kids.

    When anyone falls back to Nazi definitions then they are trying to use emotion instead of truths. Not to mention that the political definition of Right and Left are different in Europe than the USA.

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    There is no left or right. There is only freedom or slavery.
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