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    China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan Shows Need for Renewed US Commitment to Internet Gove

    This "New IP" plan will be part of China's 6G Internet. It will incorporate China's social credit system and users will have to register to get on the internet. If your social credit score is too low, you get shut out.

    China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan Shows Need for Renewed US Commitment to Internet Governance

    China released its 14th Five-Year plan for economic development last month, including its intended next steps in technology. The blueprint makes clear that, even before the ink is dry on many 5G contracts for broadband telecommunications, China and its networking giant Huawei are gearing up to ensure their vision of the internet goes global.

    But Huawei’s plans for 6G and beyond make U.S. concerns over 5G look paltry: Huawei is proposing a fundamental internet redesign, which it calls “New IP,” designed to build “intrinsic security” into the web. Intrinsic security means that individuals must register to use the internet, and authorities can shut off an individual user’s internet access at any time. In short, Huawei is looking to integrate China’s “social credit,” surveillance, and censorship regimes into the internet’s architecture.


    The New IP proposal itself rests on a flawed technical foundation that threatens to fragment the internet into a mess of less interoperable, less stable, and even less secure networks. To avoid scrutiny of New IP’s shortcomings, Huawei has circumvented international standards bodies where experts might challenge the technical shortcomings of the proposal. Instead, Huawei has worked through the United Nations’ International Telecommunications Union (ITU), where Beijing holds more political sway.


    The appropriate place for a review of the New IP concept would be the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF). The IETF and other standards bodies are examining most of the technical changes to internet infrastructure that make up the New IP proposal, and these bodies have said it is premature to make a dramatic change without more information and consensus. Huawei’s plan to rebuild the internet from the top-down based on speculative-use cases – uses of the internet that might one day exist as opposed to an established use that current users or businesses are already clamoring for – bucks the logic of internet governance, which postulates that change should be incremental and based on established needs.


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    A social credit system is, indeed, dystopian, but I'm guessing there will come a time when the US has something similar. The woke left is bound and determined to control the thoughts, actions, and words of everyone, and I can see this kind of thing fitting into their playbook.

    This is for the China model, for the US model, I'm guessing they'll include "not acknowledging your white privilege."

    As of November 2019, in addition to dishonest and fraudulent financial behavior, other behavior that some cities have officially listed as negative factors of credit ratings includes playing loud music or eating in rapid transits,[32] violating traffic rules such as jaywalking and red-light violations,[33][34] making reservations at restaurants or hotels but not showing up,[35] failing to correctly sort personal waste,[36][37][38] fraudulently using other people's public transportation ID cards,[39] smoking violations[40] etc; on the other hand, behavior listed as positive factors of credit ratings includes donating blood, donating to charity, volunteering for community services, praising government efforts on social media, and so on.[41][42][43]
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    Some progressives have floated the idea of the US adopting a system like China's.

    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    A social credit system is, indeed, dystopian, but I'm guessing there will come a time when the US has something similar. The woke left is bound and determined to control the thoughts, actions, and words of everyone, and I can see this kind of thing fitting into their playbook.

    This is for the China model, for the US model, I'm guessing they'll include "not acknowledging your white privilege."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Some progressives have floated the idea of the US adopting a system like China's.

    I'm not surprised.
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    Then, it's back to the libraries and hand written letters.

    Screw them, I wont be alive by the time this takes hold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Some progressives have floated the idea of the US adopting a system like China's.
    Yes.....they are called well trained Marxists.
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    Is "dystopian" replacing " racism" and "human rights abuse" as the new vilification propaganda buzzword ? ......(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Is "dystopian" replacing " racism" and "human rights abuse" as the new vilification propaganda buzzword ? ......(lol)
    Yes, when the authoritarian hand of the state creates a social credit system designed to isolate and control all who will not comply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes, when the authoritarian hand of the state creates a social credit system designed to isolate and control all who will not comply.
    You can complain about it all you like from your preferred position of ignorance , but the Chinese people understand it , and fully support their government in doing it . The fact is , the US is already far more authoritarian and dystopian than China under the CCP. Freedoms in China are increasing to levels never seen before , and the more they increase , the more the people support and believe in their government.
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    Wow. A pro-authoritarian. Sieg Heil.
    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    You can complain about it all you like from your preferred position of ignorance , but the Chinese people understand it , and fully support their government in doing it . The fact is , the US is already far more authoritarian and dystopian than China under the CCP. Freedoms in China are increasing to levels never seen before , and the more they increase , the more the people support and believe in their government.
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