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    Lightbulb A woman is charged with a felony for not returning VHS tape 21 years ago...

    A woman is charged with a felony for not returning VHS tape 21 years ago... Oklahoma woman charged with felony for not returning VHS tape 21 years ago


    A former Oklahoma resident is facing felony embezzlement charges for not returning a VHS tape rented in Norman more than two decades ago. Online documents show Caron McBride is a wanted woman for never returning 'Sabrina the Teenage Witch' on VHS tape in 1999. "The first thing she told me was felony embezzlement, so, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack," McBride said. McBride said she first learned about the charges when trying to change her name on her license after getting married in Texas.



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    Most public libraries won't charge you criminally for failure to return a book. They'll just freeze your account until the fine is paid. @DGUtley Doesn't a "felony embezzlement" have to meet a bar, say, x number of dollars must be evident at level to even be a "embezzlement" felony charge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Most public libraries won't charge you criminally for failure to return a book. They'll just freeze your account until the fine is paid. @DGUtley Doesn't a "felony embezzlement" have to meet a bar, say, x number of dollars must be evident at level to even be a "embezzlement" felony charge?
    I would think there's a dollar level threshold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I would think there's a dollar level threshold.
    I would argue that the tape in question was ripped from an original, therefore reducing the dollar measure of the claim.
    It's not like they can prove she liberated the only copy in the store.
    Time and material should be less than three dollars with a dupe copy.
    Must be a slow day in OK..................
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Most public libraries won't charge you criminally for failure to return a book. They'll just freeze your account until the fine is paid. @DGUtley Doesn't a "felony embezzlement" have to meet a bar, say, x number of dollars must be evident at level to even be a "embezzlement" felony charge?
    I expect they are including 21 years of late fines on that tape as part of the monetary loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    I would argue that the tape in question was ripped from an original, therefore reducing the dollar measure of the claim.
    It's not like they can prove she liberated the only copy in the store.
    Time and material should be less than three dollars with a dupe copy.
    Must be a slow day in OK..................
    If the tape was copied, that was piracy and they are not entitled to any legal recovery on the proceeds of a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I expect they are including 21 years of late fines on that tape as part of the monetary loss.
    Well, they may was well toss her butt in prison for such a heinous crime......And while I'm not clear on the law in some states, I expect there will be a Statute of Limitations that will apply.
    This is not a murder charge, but it seems like OK is handling it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    If the tape was copied, that was piracy and they are not entitled to any legal recovery on the proceeds of a crime.
    I see you didn't follow through.
    I said the store makes copies off of a master provided by the chain. That is why they have x number of copies to rent. The chain does not provide all of those dvd's or movies. They are ripped from head stock. They are granted permission to copy from head stock by the distributors. That is not piracy, but it should be considered as such, in the finest sense of the word.
    Do try to keep up. Nothing was mentioned about the suspect duplicating anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Well, they may was well toss her butt in prison for such a heinous crime......And while I'm not clear on the law in some states, I expect there will be a Statute of Limitations that will apply.
    This is not a murder charge, but it seems like OK is handling it that way.
    I just noticed that the charge was laid in March 2000, as much as 1 year after the tape was not returned, thus it would have been within the 2-year statute for fraud. Once the charge is laid, it doesn't expire. IIRC, video shops often charged as much as $2 a day for late returns which could easily accumulate to over $500 within one year. OK's threshold for felony theft is $500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I just noticed that the charge was laid in March 2000, as much as 1 year after the tape was not returned, thus it would have been within the 2-year statute for fraud. Once the charge is laid, it doesn't expire. IIRC, video shops often charged as much as $2 a day for late returns which could easily accumulate to over $500 within one year. OK's threshold for felony theft is $500.
    ok, then let's put the violent felon in the chair...............MY GOD!!!
    You do know those stores write these things off. It's called insurance.
    What probably occurred was that the insurance wasn't going to cover a 3 dollar tape as stolen.
    If they insurance company and DID pay the claim, this phase is null, as restitution had already been provided.
    Now, it's just a witch hunt and looks like someone is looking to score points with the voters.
    Which brings up another point. Do you think the public general gives a damn?
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