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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The word race which derives from the Italian "razza" has been co-opted from its original sense as a description of people from a common origin or who share common characteristics. It was used as we now use the word ethnicity. The sense of the word only changed when it was deliberately applied in conjunction with flawed taxonomic theory in order to support colonial agendas. Despite the fact that the theory, particularly in respect of humans, has been scientifically disproven, we persist in using this misnomer as if it is biologically meaningful. The unfortunate result of this quack science was that the categorization of people by skin color, hence black, brown, red, white and yellow entered the lexicon as "races" of people. Centuries before, the French, English, Germans, Chinese etc were all referred to as races i.e. ethnicities regardless of their skin tone. This flawed theory permitted imperialist powers to discount the humanity of the peoples who they conquered often legally treating them as something closer to animals, making laws denying them the right to own land, have any say in government, restricting their education as well as how they could make a living and in some cases even enslaving them. This allowed these colonial powers to exploit the resources of these conquered territories with ethical impunity.

    There is no question that the west benefited greatly from the stolen labor and bounty of their colonies. It created great wealth, which in turn help fuel the industrialization of the west. It would be a lie to suggest that the concept of "white" western superiority has entirely disappeared or that the legacy of colonialism in the Middle East, Africa, South America and South East Asia hasn't been military and political manipulation on the part of the west to ensure that the nations therein remain politically unstable, making access to their resources much cheaper. It is clear even in the patronizing fashion in which the nations in these lands are discussed by westerners.

    CRT may have become lost in the weeds to the point where it has become toxic, but it does contain some fundamental truths.

    The word race which derives from the Italian "razza" has been co-opted from its original sense as a description of people from a common origin or who share common characteristics.
    Right, you can read Edmund Burke speaking of the Irish race.

    It wasn't until Galton's ideas were adopted by Progressive Era eugenics that it became associated with skin color.

    CRT may have become lost in the weeds to the point where it has become toxic, but it does contain some fundamental truths.
    CRT has gone through two phases. The first phase was neoMarxist, materialist, and aligned with the civil rights movement that sought equality and judgment of a man by his character and not his skin color. The second phase started in the 80-90s and this is the postmodernist movement that rejects any form of objective truth, thereby unable in its contradictions to "contain some fundamental truths", and is anti-liberal, which is odd when you think of the Democratic Party's embrace of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I don't think that I defended it, I think I explained it. I understand the rationality behind it, even if I don't agree with it.
    You misspelled irrationality. I don't think you would defend it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I don't think that I defended it, I think I explained it. I understand the rationality behind it, even if I don't agree with it.
    Ah, maybe it was a more tolerant stance toward it that I remember. This gives the state license to find racism virtually anywhere it looks for it...and penalize businesses for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Ah, maybe it was a more tolerant stance toward it that I remember. This gives the state license to find racism virtually anywhere it looks for it...and penalize businesses for it.
    That to me is the real issue. Critical Theory is whacky and self-destructive and will fade away like any fad. As such, "It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." The problem is the Democrats embracing it and enforcing it on us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Just look at the way they twist science over COVID.

    Yes more minorities are effected but it has specific causes that have nothing to do with race or even poverty.
    Yes. It is typically due to co-morbidities, which disproportionately affect black people.

    This is probably due to the fact that black people are less likely to see a doctor regularly; and that may be due to a lack of healthcare insurance.

    But just why is that white people's fault, anyway?

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    Turd eating leftists already proved to the world math was not racist when they made the movie "Stand and Deliver."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Yes. It is typically due to co-morbidities, which disproportionately affect black people.

    This is probably due to the fact that black people are less likely to see a doctor regularly; and that may be due to a lack of healthcare insurance.

    But just why is that white people's fault, anyway?
    There might also be a genetic component.

    Race-related differences in genetic determinants of COVID-19 severity (news-medical.net)
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