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Thread: Ben Franklin nailed it. A quarter millenia ago. But so right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    "When people find out they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic"
    Is there any single comment that better describes out current situation. I am told that 50% pay no income tax. Everyone should have a dog in the fight!

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/886...emselves-money
    Well it wasn't Ben Franklin: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ection/321393/

    From the moment President Obama was reelected, disgruntled conservatives began circulating a quote heralding democracy's downfall at the hands of greedy voters. We hate to break it to them in their time of mourning, but their favorite bit of historical wisdom is fabricated.
    Spend three minutes surfing the conservative web today, and you're likely to come across variants of this quote, usually attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville, maybe even a couple times:

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    "When people find out they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic"
    Is there any single comment that better describes out current situation. I am told that 50% pay no income tax. Everyone should have a dog in the fight!

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/886...emselves-money
    Perhaps that's because half of all Americans earn less than $30K per year: Half Of Americans Make Less Than $30,000 Per Year - Business 2 Community While the poverty threshold is set somewhere closer to $12K per year, at $30K per year people are not earning enough not to have their federal taxes returned.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I must disagree. He really thought he was making a point.
    Yeah, that Conservatives are Bigots who don't want women to have the vote.

    And another Fail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    So that means stay at home moms right?
    Wrong.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Wrong.
    There area lot of couples that are male dominated in this country; what about those women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    There area lot of couples that are male dominated in this country; what about those women?
    What about them? Maybe you should assert yourself.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Well it wasn't Ben Franklin: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ection/321393/

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    Yeah I'll stick with my source thanks. but ti doesn't really matter who it was. The fact that it was true is what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Perhaps that's because half of all Americans earn less than $30K per year: Half Of Americans Make Less Than $30,000 Per Year - Business 2 Community While the poverty threshold is set somewhere closer to $12K per year, at $30K per year people are not earning enough not to have their federal taxes returned.

    Actually I'll bet full PA families earn over that when benefits like free healthcare are concerned. Hell insurance is worth 18 K alone. But either way this is not a healthy system. Something is wrong including the not so market based cost of housing. Alsothere are now two kinds of poverty in america. Real poverty like the homeless and relative poverty as there will always be a bottom quadrant, but many of them have $500.00 cell phones etc

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    I disagree with protecting multimillionaires and billionaires from high taxes.

    Sadly, many Conservatives support multimillionaires and billionaires even after multimillionaires and billionaires betrayed Conservatives and became Woke. Multimillionaires and billionaires waste money which could have been used to help poor and disabled people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yeah I'll stick with my source thanks. but ti doesn't really matter who it was. The fact that it was true is what matters.
    Well, we're still a Republic, so is it true?

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