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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Conservatives have made a great effort to rewrite history and assign Hitler and anything else bad to the left. So much so that many actually believe this BS.

    I wonder how they spin the fact that literally all white nationalists, Neo Nazis, the Klan and other whites supremacist groups all vote Republican and in Europe, belong to far right parties and organizations?
    I'd imagine most don't vote at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I'd imagine most don't vote at all.
    It'd be interesting to see where he gets his data from--if any exists at all since voting is done in private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It'd be interesting to see where he gets his data from--if any exists at all since voting is done in private.
    I suspect there isn't any and he's just making an assumption. Moreover, it's difficult to draw comparisons with European politics since much of what the GOP stands for the European "far right" doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Conservatives have made a great effort to rewrite history and assign Hitler and anything else bad to the left. So much so that many actually believe this BS.

    Try the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany NSDAP Documents of the 1930's all original. Not invented or re-written history. That came later when Nazis became far right according to European "Communist" opposition and the fools bought into same. Bill Clinton historical Guru Carroll Quigley himself wrote that Nazis were Right-Wing because they were anti-Communist!

    NSDAP 25 points manifesto - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    A few select items:


    We think that the government's first job is to make sure every citizen has a job and enough to eat.

    Every citizen should have a job. Their work should not be selfish, but help everyone.

    We want all very big corporations to be owned by the government.

    Big industrial companies should share their profits with the workers.

    A law to take over land if the country needs it, without the government having to pay for it...

    To prohibit land speculation (buying land just to sell to someone else for more money)



    My Fave: Create a strong central government for the Reich just like modern American Progressives!





    Get the idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I suspect there isn't any and he's just making an assumption. Moreover, it's difficult to draw comparisons with European politics since much of what the GOP stands for the European "far right" doesn't.

    His "iterally all white nationalists, Neo Nazis, the Klan and other whites supremacist groups all vote Republican" is disproven just by pointing to far-right spokesperson Richard Spencer who supported Biden and voted Democrat.



    Moreover, it's difficult to draw comparisons with European politics since much of what the GOP stands for the European "far right" doesn't.
    Precisely. Where's jet to say he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Indeed it is sad the both commuinsim and fascism tie in together on the left.
    When you and the whole right stop relying entirely on the BigLie technique, that won't come across as obvious projection on your part.

    Do you even know what Critical Race Theory is? Your author clearly didn't. Almost no conservatives do. Sure, not many liberals do either, but at least the liberals don't make up a fantasy version to scare the morons.

    No, he provided rational reasons for his conclusions. Not his fult you face reason and see it as feelings.
    Then why don't you tell us what those reasons are, in your own words. After you tell us what Critical Race Theory is. That is, take a stand and debate the topic yourself, instead of always playing the propaganda parrot.

    This is the part where you run away, throwing insults to cover your retreat, and then calling for a gang of lapdogs to yap at me. After all, you've been challenged to back up your BS, and that always sends you running, whatever the topic is.

    CRT...BLM riots, yea, right.
    Confirmed. None of the Trump cultists here have any idea what Critical Race Theory is. They just know that their fascist-stalinist masters told them it was something they should soil themselves over, so they ran to obey.

    Why do their masters do that? Because keepying the Trump cultists hysterical keeps them obedient. It's standard authoritarianism -- use propaganda to manufacture horrors, then tell the ones you've terrified that only a strong authoritarian daddy-figure can save them from those horrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Get the idea?

    Yep. You're shamelessly revising history to claim that the right-wing Nazis were really leftists. That's a standard modern fascist tactic. It doesn't fool any non-fascists, being that it's so transparently stupid.

    And boy howdy, does that failure piss the fascists off. As does pointing out that the actual Nazis and Fascists now ally with Republicans, due to being ideological bedfellows.

    Oh, the Biden admin told Spencer to go to Hell. The Trump admin smooched white supremacist keister. It takes a special type of fascist liar to tie fascism to the left. We have those types of liars here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    When you and the whole right stop relying entirely on the BigLie technique, that won't come across as obvious projection on your part.

    Do you even know what Critical Race Theory is? Your author clearly didn't. Almost no conservatives do. Sure, not many liberals do either, but at least the liberals don't make up a fantasy version to scare the morons.



    Then why don't you tell us what those reasons are, in your own words. After you tell us what Critical Race Theory is. That is, take a stand and debate the topic yourself, instead of always playing the propaganda parrot.

    This is the part where you run away, throwing insults to cover your retreat, and then calling for a gang of lapdogs to yap at me. After all, you've been challenged to back up your BS, and that always sends you running, whatever the topic is.



    Confirmed. None of the Trump cultists here have any idea what Critical Race Theory is. They just know that their fascist-stalinist masters told them it was something they should soil themselves over, so they ran to obey.

    Why do their masters do that? Because keepying the Trump cultists hysterical keeps them obedient. It's standard authoritarianism -- use propaganda to manufacture horrors, then tell the ones you've terrified that only a strong authoritarian daddy-figure can save them from those horrors.

    Common sense relies on mockery for his fallacies, you rely on more straight forward but entirely made up ad hom.


    Then why don't you tell us what those reasons are
    Why don't you show us you actually read the OP and have an argument with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    [/SIZE][/FONT]Yep. You're shamelessly revising history to claim that the right-wing Nazis were really leftists. That's a standard modern fascist tactic. It doesn't fool any non-fascists, being that it's so transparently stupid.

    And boy howdy, does that failure piss the fascists off. As does pointing out that the actual Nazis and Fascists now ally with Republicans, due to being ideological bedfellows.

    Oh, the Biden admin told Spencer to go to Hell. The Trump admin smooched white supremacist keister. It takes a special type of fascist liar to tie fascism to the left. We have those types of liars here.

    THen tell us, mam, how were Nazis right-wing. Be specific. None of the sloppy history shows us, or academia says so, or superficial things like they were authoritarian or racist for, after all, so were Marx and the Communists authoritarian and racist. You will need to premise that with an accurate definition of right-wing, and then provide historical facts that show Nazis fit that definition.

    I doubt you have it in you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Common sense relies on mockery for his fallacies, you rely on more straight forward but entirely made up ad hom.
    You neglected to tell us what Critical Race Theory is, and how it combines Marxism and Fascism.


    It's hilarious. If show up, you'll run away from your own thread. It happens over and over.

    Why don't you show us you actually read the OP and have an argument with it.
    I'm here to debate _you_, not a propaganda piece. If you can't debate, just say so.

    Oh wait, you just did.

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