When Hitler Seduces Marx

[Chris]

Chris is just pouting the "Nazis were liberals!" revisionism now, and I have no interest in that, so I'll see if you're brave enough to debate.



How what bothers me? You're not making any sense. How is pointing out that you're making up weird stuff being bothered?

Let's have you try it. Tell us what Critical Race Theory is. Then tell us how it's both Marxism and Nazism. Unless supporting your claims bothers you, that is.



Oh, you're just delusional! Why didn't you state that right off, and saved us some time? And why hasn't anyone told you before that you're babbling nonsense? It shouldn't be left up to me to stage these interventions.

The Nazis were anti-liberal, anti-capitalism, anti-democracy--just like the Communists were. The Nazis and the Communists were two branches of socialism. The conservatives were led by Hindenburg.

Do try to get your facts right about what I post and about history.


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Tell us what Critical Race Theory is. Then tell us how it's both Marxism and Nazism.

Why do you plays games?

Unllike you, I'm happy to define terms.

CRT -- something really only taught in law schools and graduate programs -- says that racism is prevalent, so many legal matters have to be viewed though the prism of race. It also say that it's vital to listen to those affected by that racism.

How that kind of common sense becomes Marxism and Nazism, only Trump cultists know.

Unllike you, I'm happy to define terms.

CRT -- something really only taught in law schools and graduate programs -- says that racism is prevalent, so many legal matters have to be viewed though the prism of race. It also say that it's vital to listen to those affected by that racism.

How that kind of common sense becomes Marxism and Nazism, only Trump cultists know.

At last some substance. So discussion:

CRT -- something really only taught in law schools and graduate programs

Odd, because Trump issued an EO to stop its be promulgated throughout the federal bureaucracy. And Biden issued an EO reinstating it in the federal bureaucracy. He also issued another EO promoting it in public education. We see also many states outlawing it and many parents suing to stop it being taught to their kids.

says that racism is prevalent, so many legal matters have to be viewed though the prism of race

That's not CRT, that CLT (Critical Legal Theory, derived from Critical Theory) from which lawyers like Bell and Crenshaw derived Intersectionality, one intersection or identity being race, thus CRT.

It also say that it's vital to listen to those affected by that racism.

Actually what CRT argues is not conscious racism but unconscious systemic racism, iow, a prevalent or pervasive assumption that it is everywhere, not a conclusion of critical thinking, not something one can point to as factual.

How that kind of common sense becomes Marxism and Nazism, only Trump cultists know.

That one is easy.

Critical Theory spawned Critical Legal Theory spawned Critical Race Theory. Good so far?

Critical Theory was invented by a bunch of Marxists who disappointed in the failure of Marxism to bring about a revolution and topple capitalism on the basis of classes--if you want the names of these Marxists, just ask. The roots of Critical Race Theory is Marxist with a twist, class oppression has been replaced by intersectional oppression, including racial oppression.

The connection to Nazis is racism. CRT advocates, seeing race everywhere, demand racial/racist solutions. They--Krenshaw, for example--demand resegregation. Some of Biden's EOs preference people of color over others. Thus the influence of Hilter on Marx (which is really another thread).

[CCitizen]

Not all Repulblicans are open nazis, but all of them accept the Nazis among them. When they stop tongue-bathing Nazis, we'll stop pointing out their support of Nazism, but not until then.



Everything there, you just made up. That is, you used the BigLie technique, as the Nazis did.



As I've never used that argument, one could wonder why you chose such a stupid lie. I mean, Goebbels told you to use the BigLie often, but he would want you to be smart about it. But we really don't have to wonder about your motivations. We know why Trump cultists always lie. There are multiple reasons.

1. They're fundamentially gutless. They can't debate any liberal, and they can't admit it, so they just lie about what the liberal supposedly said.

2. Their one fundamental philosophical belief is "The ends always justifies the means, but only for my own side". They literally believe that anything they do is good by definition.

3. All the other conservatives are lying, so they feel compelled to bleat along with the herd.

4. They get off on lying. They get a sick pervy thrill from doing it, a serious tingle up the leg.

Regrettably, this mostly Conservative forum allows a continuum of abuse toward Conservative members by this user.

[Chris]

Regrettably, this mostly Conservative forum allows a continuum of abuse toward Conservative members by this user.

I think most conservatives here see him as comic relief. I mean, what's more comical than challenging a discussion and then disappearing when it starts.

[CCitizen]

And don't forget the alleged Racism of the Nazis was portrayed as a class struggle. The Jew Shop Keepers, Professionals, and Bankers became the evil when average Germans were out of work.

You will hear the very same rhetoric today from the left in this country, only it is about "White Privilege."

How dare white people have prosperity and ownership. Never mind the many poor white people just as there were many poor Jews in Nazi Germany.

I will say something which will drive away my Conservative friends. I have no Liberal friends.

1) Male bashing is about 20 times more prevalent then white bashing. Men are portrayed as oppressors and enemies much more then whites. Nevertheless, in 2021, all Conservative spaces strongly condemn Black Lives Matter, Critical Race Theory, etc. In 2021, Conservatives condemn reverse racism much more then reverse sexism.

2) African Americans still suffer significant discrimination -- such as 10% longer sentences for the same crime. Here. African Americans still suffer much greater levels of poverty.

[CCitizen]

If there is reverse racism, it is met with strong condemnation from Mainstream Conservatives -- including most Fox News reporters. Thus, reverse racism can not grow to become dangerous.

Reverse sexism is much more common then reverse racism. Conservatives engage in it much less often then Liberals, but they almost never call it out.

[carolina73]

You mean people who currently swear allegiance to the modern Republican party, due to having the same ideology.

And you love that. That settles the "Who are the Nazis? "question conclusiovely. Not all Repulblicans are open nazis, but all of them accept the Nazis among them. When they stop tongue-bathing Nazis, we'll stop pointing out their support of Nazism, but not until then.



Everything there, you just made up. That is, you used the BigLie technique, as the Nazis did.



As I've never used that argument, one could wonder why you chose such a stupid lie. I mean, Goebbels told you to use the BigLie often, but he would want you to be smart about it. But we really don't have to wonder about your motivations. We know why Trump cultists always lie. There are multiple reasons.

1. They're fundamentially gutless. They can't debate any liberal, and they can't admit it, so they just lie about what the liberal supposedly said.

2. Their one fundamental philosophical belief is "The ends always justifies the means, but only for my own side". They literally believe that anything they do is good by definition.

3. All the other conservatives are lying, so they feel compelled to bleat along with the herd.

4. They get off on lying. They get a sick pervy thrill from doing it, a serious tingle up the leg.

You edit my response so that you could lie as @Chris pointed out.

That was highly unethical of you.

You could have responded to even one of my points but you failed to do that.

[Cotton1]

You edit my response so that you could lie as @Chris pointed out.

That was highly unethical of you.

You could have responded to even one of my points but you failed to do that.

Par for the course for him ....

[carolina73]

I will say something which will drive away my Conservative friends. I have no Liberal friends.

1) Male bashing is about 20 times more prevalent then white bashing. Men are portrayed as oppressors and enemies much more then whites. Nevertheless, in 2021, all Conservative spaces strongly condemn Black Lives Matter, Critical Race Theory, etc. In 2021, Conservatives condemn reverse racism much more then reverse sexism.

2) African Americans still suffer significant discrimination -- such as 10% longer sentences for the same crime. Here. African Americans still suffer much greater levels of poverty.

No Liberal friends? Or no Progressive friends?

I often use the term Liberal for Progressive, because they hid under that label for much of my life. I need to take better care in doing that because calling a Progressive a Liberal is like calling bird droppings = rain.

[CCitizen]

No Liberal friends? Or no Progressive friends?

I often use the term Liberal for Progressive, because they hid under that label for much of my life. I need to take better care in doing that because calling a Progressive a Liberal is like calling bird droppings = rain.

No Progressive friends. Modern Progressives are more anti-Liberal then anyone else.

[mamooth]

The Nazis were anti-liberal, anti-capitalism,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._the_Holocaust

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself by pretending the Nazis were anti-capitalist. They weren't. They had their favorite companies, so it was crony capitalism, but those companies driving the Nazi war machine were not state-owned. They were privately owned. Capitalism. Go peddle your revisionist history to someone dumb enough to fall for it. The Nazis were right-wing. Deal with it.

Now, I'll ask you again to talk about the thread topic. In your own words, tell us what Critical Race Theory is, and how it equates to both Marxism and Nazism.

Obviously, you won't answer. You always run from your own threads when I show up. None of my pout-stalkers will do anything except fling insults at me. By this time, everyone knows they can't debate me. All they can do is a propaganda driveby. If they're taken off-script, they're helpless.

This thread did support one of my ongoing points, which is that conservatives no longer have any coherent political philosphy. They're now driven entirely by grievance and xenophobia.