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    Hi-jacking a cause

    Many of you here know that I care about the earth and the environment. I have posted many threads over the last three years arguing the subject. To this day I still believe that we are stewards of the earth, and that conditions on this planet are just right for life like ours, and that if we destroy those conditions, she will no longer support life in our form. I believe in clean water, and air, and using technologies for energy that will cause the least amount of harm. I believe we should do everything in our power to not pollute our water because it is our life. I believe we should plant more trees.

    Here is where I draw the line, there are people who have hi-jacked the green cause in order to push an agenda. It has come to the point that any news they tell us about the climate can't be trusted because they have an alternate agenda in mind. If their main concern was saving the earth, they would have pushed for not polluting, planting trees and using better tech for energy. Instead they are pushing for mass surveillance. How is that going to save the earth? They are using and fooling the masses.

    We do not have to give up our rights and freedoms in order to take care of the planet!!
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    Tyrants from both sides will grasp at any cause they can to rein in the gullible.

    It has always been about POWER with those types. Nothing else.
    Any cause they can hijack is fine with them.

    I hope you are enjoying those cool forest trails that surround you.
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    Disagree, some people just don't give a shat. There is no right to pollute or hurt other humans and any even casual view of the pollsters demonstrates that fact. Cancer areas exist because they don't give a shat. Killing people ain't a right.

    https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts...bout-pollution
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Disagree, some people just don't give a shat. There is no right to pollute or hurt other humans and any even casual view of the pollsters demonstrates that fact. Cancer areas exist because they don't give a shat. Killing people ain't a right.

    https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts...bout-pollution
    By saying you disagree, are you saying you believe that mass surveillance and loss of freedom is the answer? I am not sure what part you are disagreeing with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    By saying you disagree, are you saying you believe that mass surveillance and loss of freedom is the answer? I am not sure what part you are disagreeing with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    If their main concern was saving the earth, they would have pushed for not polluting, planting trees and using better tech for energy.
    And we do.

    Instead they are pushing for mass surveillance. How is that going to save the earth? They are using and fooling the masses.
    And we don't do that.

    Hence your conspiracy crumbles. The better question is why you created it. I'm guessing you that your political cult would approve. That is, you're politicizing the issue, and we're not. That is, you're projecting your way of life on to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Many of you here know that I care about the earth and the environment. I have posted many threads over the last three years arguing the subject. To this day I still believe that we are stewards of the earth, and that conditions on this planet are just right for life like ours, and that if we destroy those conditions, she will no longer support life in our form. I believe in clean water, and air, and using technologies for energy that will cause the least amount of harm. I believe we should do everything in our power to not pollute our water because it is our life. I believe we should plant more trees.

    Here is where I draw the line, there are people who have hi-jacked the green cause in order to push an agenda. It has come to the point that any news they tell us about the climate can't be trusted because they have an alternate agenda in mind. If their main concern was saving the earth, they would have pushed for not polluting, planting trees and using better tech for energy. Instead they are pushing for mass surveillance. How is that going to save the earth? They are using and fooling the masses.

    We do not have to give up our rights and freedoms in order to take care of the planet!!
    You are exactly on point. When you look at the lives of those pushing the Green new Deal then they are not usually shy of doing whatever they want and living lavishly. It is more about control to too many of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Many of you here know that I care about the earth and the environment. I have posted many threads over the last three years arguing the subject. To this day I still believe that we are stewards of the earth, and that conditions on this planet are just right for life like ours, and that if we destroy those conditions, she will no longer support life in our form. I believe in clean water, and air, and using technologies for energy that will cause the least amount of harm. I believe we should do everything in our power to not pollute our water because it is our life. I believe we should plant more trees.

    Here is where I draw the line, there are people who have hi-jacked the green cause in order to push an agenda. It has come to the point that any news they tell us about the climate can't be trusted because they have an alternate agenda in mind. If their main concern was saving the earth, they would have pushed for not polluting, planting trees and using better tech for energy. Instead they are pushing for mass surveillance. How is that going to save the earth? They are using and fooling the masses.

    We do not have to give up our rights and freedoms in order to take care of the planet!!
    Who is involved in this mass surveillance and what evidence is there for mass surveillance?

    Most of the news reporters that are promoting green energy actually believe in the projections of climate scientists. Planting more trees won't solve the problem. What is meant by "better tech for energy"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalmike View Post
    Who is involved in this mass surveillance and what evidence is there for mass surveillance?

    Most of the news reporters that are promoting green energy actually believe in the projections of climate scientists. Planting more trees won't solve the problem. What is meant by "better tech for energy"?
    The second step is to tell people they MUST have a vax card.................no card, no travel.
    No card, no access.

    oh, and the first step is:
    The National Security Agency’s mass surveillance has greatly expanded in the years since September 11, 2001. Disclosures have shown that, until recently, the government regularly tracked the calls of hundreds of millions of Americans. Today, it continues to spy on a vast but unknown number of Americans’ international calls, text messages, web-browsing activities, and emails.
    https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/privacy-and-surveillance/nsa-surveillance
    Shall we talk about Stingray?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    The second step is to tell people they MUST have a vax card.................no card, no travel.
    No card, no access.

    oh, and the first step is:
    The National Security Agency’s mass surveillance has greatly expanded in the years since September 11, 2001. Disclosures have shown that, until recently, the government regularly tracked the calls of hundreds of millions of Americans. Today, it continues to spy on a vast but unknown number of Americans’ international calls, text messages, web-browsing activities, and emails.
    https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/privacy-and-surveillance/nsa-surveillance
    Shall we talk about Stingray?
    The opening paragraph is vague. What does government surveillance have to do with the earth, the environment, or the climate?

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