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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    LOL! I guess that makes McConnel, McCarthy, Graham and Stefanik RINO Liberal Republicans too. They are rated less conservative than Romney.


    You have lost credibility long ago.

    No. Not less Conservative. This means did not support Trump for some specific bills.

    Example where I agreed with Graham: That it was not wise to vote for the first relief bill which paid people more to stay home. That was a huge mistake by Trump and caused massive amounts of leeches to stay home instead of work.

    He could have gone into the election with less than 5% unemployment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    No. Not less Conservative. This means did not support Trump for some specific bills.

    Example where I agreed with Graham: That it was not wise to vote for the first relief bill which paid people more to stay home. That was a huge mistake by Trump and caused massive amounts of leeches to stay home instead of work.

    He could have gone into the election with less than 5% unemployment.
    But imagine how that refusal would have been portrayed in the press.
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    One of Liquids' stupid claims is that Trump was a conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    One of Liquids' stupid claims is that Trump was a conservative.
    Right. Trump ran as a populist governed as a populist. He was actually pretty consistent in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    One of Liquids' stupid claims is that Trump was a conservative.
    Why are you lying?


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    Speaking to the Justice Department on Dec. 27, 2020. Conversation memorialized in then-acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue’s contemporaneous notes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Right. Trump ran as a populist governed as a populist. He was actually pretty consistent in that regard.
    Peter lied. I never claimed Trump was conservative. Any idiot knows he is not.

    Trump is devoid of principle. And so followed the GOP as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Peter lied. I never claimed Trump was conservative. Any idiot knows he is not.

    Trump is devoid of principle. And so followed the GOP as well.
    Let's say that's true for the sake of argument. Racial jungle, lock 'em up Joe is also devoid of principle and the Democrats followed suit. Specifically, I mean the morons and hypocrites who voted for Biden. You know, you. ROFL
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    No. Not less Conservative. This means did not support Trump for some specific bills.
    No. Heritage Action compares the politician to their own interpretation of conservative policy and rates them on that. They do not compare voting to Trump. why would that be a measure of conservatism?

    Example where I agreed with Graham: That it was not wise to vote for the first relief bill which paid people more to stay home. That was a huge mistake by Trump and caused massive amounts of leeches to stay home instead of work.

    He could have gone into the election with less than 5% unemployment.
    I agree that you cannot pay people to stay home (of course) but it’s not clear what amount of money is the tipping point that counters incentive. I don’t know where that point is. But if it is below the poverty line, then it’s a sad indication of the plight of working Americans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    I have to say.....so refreshing to see a Republican tell the truth about Trump. She has lost her position for telling the truth. I really don't know how Republicans can sleep at night. Unreal.


    Rep.
    Liz Cheney vowed Tuesday evening not to remain silent as former President Donald Trump continues to spread lies that the election was stolen from him, striking a defiant tone ahead of an expected vote to remove her from House Republican leadership on Wednesday.

    The Wyoming Republican, who is all but certain to be removed as GOP conference chair after her continued criticisms of Trump, declared that she would not join with other leaders who ignore Trump's lies, emboldening him and threatening democracy.

    We must speak the truth. Our election was not stolen. And America has not failed," Cheney said."Every one of us who has sworn the oath must act to prevent the unraveling of our democracy. This is not about policy. This is not about partisanship. This is about our duty as Americans. Remaining silent and ignoring the lie emboldens the liar," Cheney said. "I will not sit back and watch in silence while others lead our party down a path that abandons the rule of law and joins the former President's crusade to undermine our democracy."


    Cheney argued on the floor that Trump's lies about the election have misled millions of Americas, undermining the democratic process and threatening more violence beyond the January 6 attack on the US Capitol.

    "Today we face a threat America has never seen before," Cheney said. "A former President, who provoked a violent attack on this Capitol in an effort to steal the election, has resumed his aggressive effort to convince Americans that the election was stolen from him. He risks inciting further violence."
    Cheney argued in the speech that she is a conservative, in a swipe at Trump's congressional allies who have been pushing for her ouster since her January vote to impeach Trump. Cheney spoke Tuesday evening after members from the House Freedom Caucus, the conservative group that's led the charge for her removal, gave a series of speeches on the House floor railing against cancel culture. As Cheney spoke, the Republican lawmakers mostly cleared out of the chamber, with Republican Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado the sole member who stayed on the floor.
    "I am a conservative Republican, and the most conservative of conservative principles is reverence for the rule of law," she said. "The election is over. That is the rule of law. That is our constitutional process. Those who refuse to accept the rulings of our courts are at war with the Constitution."

    Liz Cheney strikes defiant tone in floor speech on eve of her expected ousting from House GOP leadership - CNNPolitics


    So, are you now a big Liz Cheney fan? I never suspected that you could become enamored with a neo-con.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Why are you lying?
    Prove it.
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