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    How a confederate flag painted on a rock could cost a mom her kid

    I can't believe this court ruling isn't out of the Onion or Babylon Bee!

    How a confederate flag painted on a rock could cost a mom her kid



    ...The upstate woman has been told she needs to ditch a driveway decoration painted with a confederate flag or risk losing custody of her mixed race child — even though a family court judge didn’t consider it to be an issue when it was raised during trial.

    “Given that the child is of mixed race, it would seem apparent that the presence of the flag is not in the child’s best interests, as the mother must encourage and teach the child to embrace her mixed race identity, rather than thrust her into a world that only makes sense through the tortured lens of cognitive dissonance,” judges with the Appellate Division’s Third Department in Albany wrote in a ruling released Thursday.

    The “presence of the confederate flag,” when “viewed pragmatically,” “is a symbol inflaming the already strained relationship between the parties,” the judges said.

    They ruled if the rock is not removed by June 1, “its continued presence shall constitute a change in circumstances,” meaning the parents’ custody agreement could be revisited, and “Family Court shall factor this into any future best interests analysis.”

    ...Regardless of its symbolism, Michael Stutman, an attorney specializing in matrimonial law and the current chair of the New York City Bar Association’s Matrimonial Law Committee, told The Post he thinks the judges made “a very dangerous statement.”

    “I think that it is a rather astonishing extension of wokeness in now that the door seems to be opening that someone’s political viewpoint reflects on their fitness as a parent,” Stutman said.

    “It is one of the clearest infringements on someone’s free speech by the state to have a court threaten to restrict a parents’ rights to their child based upon … the propriety of a person’s political beliefs....
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    Your children are not your children............they are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the State.
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    I've heard a number of decisions made by family court judges that just make you shake your head.

    This is one of the oddest.
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    Put the rock up for sale on eBay and pay the kids college .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Your children are not your children............they are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the State.
    We are moving in that direction to be sure.


    One would think that having a mix raced child indicates there was no racist intent in this display. Many consider it a symbol of Southern Pride and a tribute to the Civil War Dead in many families. It has nothing to do with bringing back Slavery, Jim Crow, ect.....

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    Repaint it with a swastika and it would be okay?

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    Hammer and cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    We are moving in that direction to be sure.


    One would think that having a mix raced child indicates there was no racist intent in this display. Many consider it a symbol of Southern Pride and a tribute to the Civil War Dead in many families. It has nothing to do with bringing back Slavery, Jim Crow, ect.....
    Yours and mine, all birth documents are held by the State in which you were born. You can not claim it unless it is wthin 46 hours of birth. If you don't grab it up, the State files Rule of Admiralty Claim and seizes it.
    Now the State can prove it owns you because you cannot prove otherwise. You do not hold the originating document. It was abandoned by the parents and subsequently seized by the State.
    If you doubt me, go downstate to your capitol Clerk's Office and request to review it.
    Once you turn over and review the backside, you'll see all kinds of signatures. Those names are people who have a vested interest in your life and money and will do with it whatever they want. You cannot get a copy of that backside and you are not allowed to photograph it, or copy it in any way, not even write the list down. The State owns it. You do not. The State can prove it owns you and your offspring.
    Now they can tell you what to do even with your children.
    You and yours are owned, much like slaves.
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    I understand why people might be offended by the Confederate flag, but I certainly don't think that everyone who uses one for decoration, or wears one on a t-shirt has racist intent. When I was growing up, I always considered it to be a symbol of southern pride, I never once took it as a symbol condoning slavery. Not in the latter 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar View Post
    I understand why people might be offended by the Confederate flag, but I certainly don't think that everyone who uses one for decoration, or wears one on a t-shirt has racist intent. When I was growing up, I always considered it to be a symbol of southern pride, I never once took it as a symbol condoning slavery. Not in the latter 20th century.
    Sure, people can react however they want, but when that crap creeps into courts and judges start expounding on it, it's gone too far.
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