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    1619 vs. 1776: When Was America Founded?

    I started listening to but stopped after a few minutes.

    The professor introducing it makes this assertion: "By most accounts, America was founded in 1776 when the Founding Fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence. More recently, The New York Times Magazine launched an initiative known as the 1619 Project, aiming to redefine America’s birth as being 1619, when the first slave ship arrived on American shores."

    The 1619 argument centers on ambiguity. These are America and founding. We in the US often speak of the US as America. If we mean the country, the US, then it was indeed founded, that is established in 1776 with the Declaration of Independence. If we mean the nation, the people, then it's much broader and founding would mean more like discovery.

    The 1619 argument about found, that is, discovery, also immediately strikes me as false in that its founding event, the White Lion English privateer under a Dutch letter of marque bringing the first Africans to colonial Virginia in 1619 (source), completely overlooks the prior founding of the Virgina colony, chartered 1606, settled 1607, Sir Humphrey Gilbert Newfoundland attempt in 1583, and Sir Walter Raleigh Roanoke Island attempt in the late 1580s (source). 1619 is not the beginning of America.

    Furthermore, 1619: 400 years ago, a ship arrived in Virginia, bearing human cargo question the exact status of the blacks who arrived there. Some intergrated into the community and others may have been treated as indentured servants like other whites.

    Moreover, if we consider America in general, as Native Americans And Slavery explains, slavery of captives, who weren't executed, was common among native American Indians.
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    It is like these Communists want to put up crime scene tape around the entirety of American History. I continue to assert this is all about pushing race division so they can say the entire system has to go and create what they want in its place. That is why the most dangerous myth they push out is "systematic racism". If is systematic that means the whole society must be reworked.

    They can not allow the reality of the American Founding to be the story of the nation.
    Freedom, Liberty, Incentive, etc.. have to go..

    The Chairman smiles down on his favorite dates

    1619, 1917 and 1949

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    Weingarten, a self-described “history and social studies teacher” defended the controversial belief, claiming that “from everything I can see and understand from the data that I see, 1619 was the year that the first slave boat came from Africa to the United States. So that’s a point in history that I think we should be teaching.”

    MacCallum — “But that is not factual. That is not true. In fact, scholars say there’s no evidence that colonists were motivated by that in coming to the United States. So it would be wrong as a historian to want to teach them something that is not true, because that is the basis that sets up all of these other tenants that lead to teaching kids that we live in a systemically racist country.”


    Here’s the full interview…


    Martha MacCallum erupts… Can’t take any more lies from Randi Weingarten… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS
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    OREGON HIRES ‘1619 PROJECT’ WRITER TO LECTURE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS ON ‘REFRAMING’ HISTORY

    The state of Oregon is paying Nikole Hannah-Jones of The New York Times’s “1619 Project” is set to lecture teachers and students on systemic racism.



    Those scholars that have debunked this piece of $#@!. Need to show up wherever Jones goes. Keep showing the country is she is an ignorant idiot and racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    OREGON HIRES ‘1619 PROJECT’ WRITER TO LECTURE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS ON ‘REFRAMING’ HISTORY

    [FONT="]The state of Oregon is paying Nikole Hannah-Jones of The New York Times’s “1619 Project” is set to lecture teachers and students on systemic racism.



    Those scholars that have debunked this piece of $#@!. Need to show up wherever Jones goes. Keep showing the country is she is an ignorant idiot and racist.

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    Hell, Biden Administration Cites 1619 Project as Inspiration in History Grant Proposal.
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    Now that is all the more reason to have those scholars out there attacking Jones as an idiot. Proving once again that Leftists just arent capable of comprehending History. US History or any other.
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