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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Why then , is fentanyl legal in the US , and used so widely by big pharma companies ? ...or is this just another case of attempting to blame someone else for something the US corporate sector has inflicted on America ?.......know your enemies , don't just imaginize them .
    Why would China be shipping it to the US to non-Pharma companies?

    Your diversion fails. China was pushing drug addiction in the USA for cash and for political reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Incorrect . It was not "trafficked into the United States".......it was imported legally by big pharma corporations , that had a plan to make $billions out of it......and that's exactly what they done .
    That's a lie. Read the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    It's obviously a big problem , so why is it available at all ? ......are you advocating for pharma corporations , and what they have done ?
    It is used in hospitals for certain types of pain, and for surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Incorrect . It was not "trafficked into the United States".......it was imported legally by big pharma corporations , that had a plan to make $billions out of it......and that's exactly what they done .
    It was brought in both legally and illegally. It is easy to make, so enterprising American criminals can cut out the foreigners (Chinese and Mexicans).
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    If you are an alcoholic then you are an alcoholic. The availability of booze did not do it. If you are a drug addict then yuu are a drug addict because it is your character. I understand that some may become addicted during legitimate pain treatment but only those of weak character do not break the dependency. On the other hand, the claims of my kid got addicted because he had his a sport injury, almost always becomes an admission of not being true and created out of embarrassment.
    If that's the case , big pharma corporations are still solely responsible for the importation , manufacturing and marketing of a dangerously addictive substance , supported by governments that provided a legal base , that allowed them to do so with impunity .......the question is , what did the governments get in return ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    If that's the case , big pharma corporations are still solely responsible for the importation , manufacturing and marketing of a dangerously addictive substance , supported by governments that provided a legal base , that allowed them to do so with impunity .......the question is , what did the governments get in return ?
    Big Pharma is responsible for, and was convicted of (some companies) of lying about the addictive nature of the drug. They said there was none so docs handed them out like candy.

    Most people are not dying from prescribed opioids to include fentanyl. It is largely the ones buying off the legal market that are ODing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Why would China be shipping it to the US to non-Pharma companies? Your diversion fails. China was pushing drug addiction in the USA for cash and for political reasons.
    Facts are never a diversion . Who-ever imported it into the US, was obviously working for the big pharma companies , because they are the ones that supplied it to the public .

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    If you are an alcoholic then you are an alcoholic. The availability of booze did not do it.
    If you are a drug addict then yuu are a drug addict because it is your character.

    I understand that some may become addicted during legitimate pain treatment but only those of weak character do not break the dependency.
    On the other hand, the claims of my kid got addicted because he had his a sport injury, almost always becomes an admission of not being true and created out of embarrassment.
    That seems to be the view of addiction before medical science started looking into the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Facts are never a diversion . Who-ever imported it into the US, was obviously working for the big pharma companies , because they are the ones that supplied it to the public .
    No. There was plenty of importation for trafficking. Read the articles. What is wrong with you that you can't just say: "Look, there's criminals everywhere, including China."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Big Pharma is responsible for, and was convicted of (some companies) of lying about the addictive nature of the drug. They said there was none so docs handed them out like candy. Most people are not dying from prescribed opioids to include fentanyl. It is largely the ones buying off the legal market that are ODing.
    Thanks for a factual account of the problem.

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