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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    What about them? Do you have any idea how many parents cheated to get their children into college. God didn't make a skin color lower than another. You can take two children, teach them the same things, provide tutors, and they will be about even if they have the desire to learn.
    IQ is not equally distributed between races, or rather regions of the world.
    IQ by nation:

    IQ by race / region

    That does not mean that people with low IQ can't achieve if they work hard. Few professions require a high IQ for success.

    My only point was that you are wrong to say all children can absorb material equally well (given an equal education). They can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The real question is why the NFL gets away with it. Well, they're Woke, and that buys them a pass.

    This was said in the context of a law suit. NFL lawyers made the claim and provided the evidence.

    The NFL would never say this in its official capacity otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    IQs do differ from individual to individual, but I'm not so sure genetics play the major role here. Society has produced some very dumb whites and some very bright blacks, and, of course, we have some of the unusual child prodigies and we can't explain why or how they were born that way, because often, their parents aren't that bright.

    I think the NFL should be ashamed. They're basically confirming the results of the Bell Curve without sticking that label on it.

    In reality--just my opinion--brains and brawn aren't always equal in an individual, and the brawny guy usually isn't the brainy guy. The brawny guy is good for entertainment purposes, but the brainy guy moves our world forward, so we should never conflate the contribution of the two. I've long thought we need to de-emphasize sports. Whoever came up with the term sports "stars?" That's anti-intellectual.

    My son got put on the 8th floor of Jayhawk Towers one year (KU) and that's the floor the basketball players stay on. He would tell us how girls were frequently visiting their floor and doing the basketball player's homework. That's just ridiculous.

    So, yes, IQs vary from birth, but an average IQ person can go a long way in this world if he/she has the support of parents early on for reading, studying, exploring, setting goals. Encouragement and developing a love of learning is essential in the formative years--so, to be sure--blacks who come from single-parent families are not going to get the same advantage as those who come from two-parent families who really want them to succeed.

    There's a cultural aspect to this--in any inner city, you can see black kids out playing on the neighborhood basketball court at all hours of the night. They're all hoping for a shot at the big leagues. That's their ticket out, they think. Those who actually succeed are a tiny, TINY minority. The rest, because they opted to play ball instead of study, are in the same straights as their parents were. It's sad really.

    Then, look at Asian children--their parents (on average) are very strict about academics. Those kids don't get to go out and shoot hoops with the black kids. Same with many Jewish and white kids. Their adult lives and successes are directly related.

    The idiocy of "there is no right answer in math" is fueling the downfall of our children.
    Most people have an average IQ. Average, however, varies based on race and region.
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    Actually the human populations with Neanderthal DNA have a higher average IQ than other groups (100-105), except the Northeast Asians (108-110). See the charts I posted above.

    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    LOL Race is a myth folks. But get a DNA check, you may have Neanderthal in you. Which would help explain why you follow Trump. LOL

    Seriously have managed people for many years. Dumb is dumb and skin shade has nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Most people have an average IQ. Average, however, varies based on race and region.
    No, not really.

    I think a great example of why we are all different is to consider the importance some cultures place on social-emotional development because they're inherently more collectivist or their values are different. They might not be learning mathematics in a classroom but are basically doing vocational training within their community to take on a role. This does not impact "intelligence," or rather cognitive functioning, but it would impact test performance on standard measures of intelligence.

    When we discuss intelligence testing we are referring to a series of cognitive functions related to how we receive, encode, process and interpret information. A major issue is that we are all going to interpret data and information differently based on our experiences (including culture and education). Certain subtests of the most commonly used measures of intelligence are extremely unfriendly to cultural variance. There is an overreliance on having the same experience with language, for example.

    Everyone, more or less, has the same hardware (cognitive functioning based on neurobiology) within a range. Culture to culture, different software is taught to that hardware. Thus, we all have hardware but learn to use it differently.

    And earlier in this thread someone brought up genetics; yes, FSIQ as measured by common measures has been demonstrated to be partly inherited - same with personality. Behavioral genetics is probably going to get pretty fun in the next decade, particularly with epigenetics and the development of new testing and assessment measures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    No, not really.

    I think a great example of why we are all different is to consider the importance some cultures place on social-emotional development because they're inherently more collectivist or their values are different. They might not be learning mathematics in a classroom but are basically doing vocational training within their community to take on a role. This does not impact "intelligence," or rather cognitive functioning, but it would impact test performance on standard measures of intelligence.

    When we discuss intelligence testing we are referring to a series of cognitive functions related to how we receive, encode, process and interpret information. A major issue is that we are all going to interpret data and information differently based on our experiences (including culture and education). Certain subtests of the most commonly used measures of intelligence are extremely unfriendly to cultural variance. There is an overreliance on having the same experience with language, for example.

    Everyone, more or less, has the same hardware (cognitive functioning based on neurobiology) within a range. Culture to culture, different software is taught to that hardware. Thus, we all have hardware but learn to use it differently.

    And earlier in this thread someone brought up genetics; yes, FSIQ as measured by common measures has been demonstrated to be partly inherited - same with personality. Behavioral genetics is probably going to get pretty fun in the next decade, particularly with epigenetics and the development of new testing and assessment measures.
    The average IQ in the US is 100. In Gahan it is 49. See previous links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The average IQ in the US is 100. In Gahan it is 49. See previous links.
    Yes, I looked at the links to pseudoscience. No mention of measures or methods, including in the "sources."
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    LOL Race is a myth folks. But get a DNA check, you may have Neanderthal in you. Which would help explain why you follow Trump. LOL

    Seriously have managed people for many years. Dumb is dumb and skin shade has nothing to do with it.
    Thanks for being a living example of it .

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