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Thread: University of California system will no longer consider SAT, ACT scores in admissions

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    My daughter is a senior in high school and we’re just wrapping up the whole college application/admission process. I’ve been following the whole thing very closely all year and between my daughter’s friends and classmates, and people on various college admissions social media sites, it’s fairly clear that, with a few hiccups, the admissions process has worked as expected, even without most schools requiring standardized test scores.
    Admitting people into college is one thing.

    The interesting thing will be the % that get a degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Admitting people into college is one thing.

    The interesting thing will be the % that get a degree.
    • A study released this week and published in the journal Educational Researcher shows high school grade point averages predict college graduation rates five times more accurately than ACT scores. The study examined 55,084 students who graduated from Chicago Public Schools between 2006 and 2009 and immediately attended a four-year college.
    https://www.k12dive.com/news/high-sc...ct-sco/571287/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    So what the hell are they going to consider?....
    Race, gender and ethnicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How do you know they've done fine this year, freshmen haven't even started yet. Would you have to wait to see how many graduate? Even wait to see how they do in careers?
    Let's see how well they did four or five years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Skin melanin content. What else?

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    Except for Asians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Very few US universities required SAT or ACT scores this year, and they appear to have done fine in evaluating applicants. A four-year high school record is a far better predictor of capability than a single three-hour test.
    The fact you feel doesn't matter is the fact that these kids haven't done anything that amounts to something in over a year and a half.
    I know that the kids here are getting a flag for just signing into class.
    I've done my share of distance learning to know that it takes personal dedication to even sign in for a class.
    Most of these kids (distance learners) didn't do 15% of their required courses.Here, anyone who was in attendance when this hit, got a pass on to the next level/grade.
    As for what I know, I've been subbing for the past three years. I have had plenty pf opportunity to see what their grades are when I get to pass out report cards.
    Kids would rather go outside and play or stay tuned in to their video games. Or in many cases, they prefer to sleep all day.
    I'm in the game, dude. I know what's going on. You have no clue since you have no skin in the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    My daughter is a senior in high school and we’re just wrapping up the whole college application/admission process. I’ve been following the whole thing very closely all year and between my daughter’s friends and classmates, and people on various college admissions social media sites, it’s fairly clear that, with a few hiccups, the admissions process has worked as expected, even without most schools requiring standardized test scores.
    That's great but it doesn't answer my question "How do you know they've done fine this year, freshmen haven't even started yet. Would you have to wait to see how many graduate? Even wait to see how they do in careers?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    OK, that answers how they decide, high school GPAs.

    The University of North Carolina tested the test-optional theory by allowing three of its schools to waive the SAT and ACT requirements in the admission processes as long as students had strong GPAs. The results of the pilot show that once in college, students with lower ACT or SAT scores performed as well as their peers who earned ACT or SAT scores that met schools' typical threshold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    OK, that answers how they decide, high school GPAs.
    Most colleges have been using holistic admissions criteria for years, considering a variety of factors, including high school grades, high school course rigor, recommendations, extracurriculars, standardized test scores, etc. Test scores have become less and less of a factor even before schools stopped requiring them, and most colleges said they gave a combination of high school rigor and grades the most weight.

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