MMC (05-27-2021)
Okay, some "new" science. People with transplants take medications on a continuing basis to suppress their immune systems. Half of these people don't create antibodies even after a second vaccine. They're pleading for people not vaccinated to continue to wear masks and social distance. They are turning up in hospitals with Covid, sometimes leading to death. So when some one posts an anti mask program, you may be killing a transplant patient. But you knew that, right?
Before assuming that the innumerable studies indicating the masking inhibits the spread of Covid-19 are all false, please note:
A) This study has not yet been peer reviewed. (This is noted at the very top of each page of the paper (pre-print) in small print.)
B) The study does not unequivocally state that masks don't prevent the spread of Covid-19, only that the use of masks is a poor predictor of the spread or non-spread of Covid-19. There is plenty of evidence of poor mask compliance in certain demographics i.e. people (primarily males) between the ages of 19 and 44 in states with mandates, which this study does not examine.
Study Summary
In summary, mask mandates and use were poor predictors of COVID-19 spread in US states. Case growth was independent of mandates at low and high rates of community spread, and mask use did not predict case growth during the Summer or Fall-Winter waves. Strengths of our study include using two mask metrics to evaluate association with COVID-19 growth rates; measuring normalized case growth in mandate and non-mandate states at comparable times to quantify the likely effect of mandates; and deconvolving the effect of mask use by examining case growth in states with variable mask use. Our study also has key limitations. We did not assess counties or localities, which may trend independently of state averages. While dense sampling promotes convergence, IHME masking estimates are subject to survey bias. We only assessed one biological quantity (confirmed and probable COVID-19 infections), but the ongoing pandemic warrants assessment of other factors such as hospitalizations and mortality. Future work is necessary to elucidate better predictors of COVID-19 spread. A recent study found that at typical respiratory fluence rates, medical masks decrease airway deposition of 10-20µm SARS-CoV-2 particles but not 1-5µm SARS-CoV-2 aerosols. Aerosol expulsion increases with COVID-19 disease severity in non-human primates, as well as with age and BMI in humans without COVID-19 [42] Aerosol treatment by enhanced ventilation and air purification could help reduce the size of COVID-19 outbreaks.
28966804 (medrxiv.org)
Here is another study from the same university regarding masking compliance issues in Jefferson County, KY:
Results of the Observational Surveys of Mask Use and Protective Measures of Indoor Public Areas in Jefferson County, KY during November 5-11, 2020 (louisville.edu)
Compliance issues have frequently been noted in the 19-44-year-old age group. Keep in mind that masks protect other people, so if unmasked people are running around shedding virus, people with masks are not protected.
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"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
Mahatma Gandhi
The proper use of masks may help, but how many in the general population properly wear their masks?
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Just AnotherPerson (05-27-2021)
I am pro mask, that being said, we would have never had to wear them in the first place had the WHO and CDC not suppressed the science on life saving medications, that also work as a prophylaxis.
That being said, I do not think children should have to wear masks. But it doesn't really matter in the end, it is rare to see anyone wearing a proper mask. Scientifically speaking, a cloth mask doesn't cut it! I have always believed if we had worn the right masks, and sanitized we could have beat Covid, but I realized the public is not capable of wearing a mask properly or even wearing the right kind.
Who can blame them though, masks suck. I have watched so many workers suffering behind their masks.
We are all brothers and sisters in humanity. We are all made from the same dust of stars. We cannot be separated because all life is interconnected.
MMC (05-27-2021)
In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.
"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Just AnotherPerson (05-27-2021)
I tend to wear the disposable masks, so if it becomes befouled, I toss it in the nearest trash bin and put on a new one (I always have several in my bag). If you wear cloth masks you should always carry a spare. If you have a runny nose, then keeping tissues on hand is advisable in order to avoid unnecessarily sneezing into your mask and if your runny nose is unstoppable, it's probably better to stay home.
It's not that most people don't know how to wear masks properly, they just don't want to and are convinced that wearing masks is an evil government plot or part of a global socialist conspiracy to deprive them of their freedom.
In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.
"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
Mahatma Gandhi
I have worn masks since March of 2020. Hand sanitizer. Distancing. No hand shaking etc.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes
Abby08 (05-27-2021)