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    Quote Originally Posted by goodpen View Post
    we did fine when voting was done on one day and the poll hours were set. Now..change it all to fit this group or that group and we have constant upheaval about voting.
    No one "did fine." The United States has one of the lowest voter participation rates among developed democracies.

    Voter Turnout by Country.png



    No one is changing it to fit any group. Dems want to give everyone more time and opportunity to vote. Republicans know that the well-to-do have more flexibility which when they can vote. Whereas poor people gotta work when they have to work, and cannot take off time, or have any to vote.



    How about an individual, who really wants to vote and is a citizen, find their own way to do so???
    In your world, resourceful people (rich people and well off people) find it easier to vote. They have transportation, and more time. So they will vote more than poor people. Extending voting hours does not inhibit rich from voting. So why take it away?

    Much f this, like register day one votes, is to make it possible for people to vote...who are not citizens or want to try to vote several times.
    Sorry what? I don't understand what you are trying to say here. please restate.



    There was a time voting was considered a privilege .
    Laws passed by elected officials effect poor people too (and even ex cons) So they should get a say. Voting is not a privilege. Its your say in the people who rule over you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Voting should take place 24/7 for the entire year during an election year. And there should be no restrictions placed on who can vote.

    Voting should take place for exactly 1 hour, between 3am and 4am, on a single day in November. No mail in. No exceptions.



    (incidentally, you only have to be a citizen in federal elections. States can allow whoever they want to vote.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Democrats want to make voter fraud as easy as possible because Democrats are the number one beneficiaries of voter fraud. That is why they are opposed to voter ID and why they are always trying to downplay the existence of voter fraud.
    I noticed you did not address the question of this thread.


    How does reducing hours help prevent voter fraud?


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    some people think the whole world should vote in our elections.
    For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Are there no laws in Texas that allow Workers to Vote during working hours and be paid? Turns out they do on Election day so just extend it.
    Are you saying that currently, in Texas, there is a law that allows workers to get paid on election day? But not during early voting? I will take your word for it. But that still means there is no good reason to cut hours during early voting.

    You "assume" this is some targeted voter attack when extended hours beyond reason should not be necessary for early voting. I did just that during the CA primary 2020 and the damn place was empty except for Poll workers.
    Its a primary (less turn out) , and a different state.And reducing hours as part of an effort to 'reduce fraud' still does not compute here.


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    Vote early and vote often. That’s what I always said.
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.


    “When people get used to preferential treatment equal treatment seems like discrimination.” - Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    some people think the whole world should vote in our elections.
    Why not? After all, who we elect often has consequences all over the world. Provide every country with mail in ballots. They can be be distributed by the UN just like they drop food on pallets in Ethiopia.



    Why should anyone be forced to prove they are a registered legal voter and they are who they say they are? That’s just silly, not to mention racist.

    Maybe everyone should be allowed to vote several times? There are occasions where someone voted then changed their mind. In that case you’d need to vote at least two more times. Your first re-vote would just cancel out your first vote. Your need to vote one more time to actually make your vote count
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 07-10-2021 at 06:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    No one "did fine." The United States has one of the lowest voter participation rates among developed democracies.

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    No one is changing it to fit any group. Dems want to give everyone more time and opportunity to vote. Republicans know that the well-to-do have more flexibility which when they can vote. Whereas poor people gotta work when they have to work, and cannot take off time, or have any to vote.




    In your world, resourceful people (rich people and well off people) find it easier to vote. They have transportation, and more time. So they will vote more than poor people. Extending voting hours does not inhibit rich from voting. So why take it away?


    Sorry what? I don't understand what you are trying to say here. please restate.





    Laws passed by elected officials effect poor people too (and even ex cons) So they should get a say. Voting is not a privilege. Its your say in the people who rule over you.
    The polls stay open as long as you are in line. It is easier to vote today than any other time in our history. Voting takes some effort. If you don't want to make an effort to vote then the problem is yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Are you saying that currently, in Texas, there is a law that allows workers to get paid on election day? But not during early voting? I will take your word for it. But that still means there is no good reason to cut hours during early voting.

    How about a problem that is well documented. Like people showing up late with no voter registration demanding to Vote all night long, and we all know this happens time and time again in certain areas. With tired poll workers who also have a life they would like to get on with. It is an invitation to fraud to make never ending accommodations and I suspect you got that all along but can't let go of your False discrimination narrative. So we have rules letting people know these polls are closing at a reasonable hour during early voting periods that we never seemed to need before, and as I said not even being used by example that is perfectly valid. How hard is that?

    The World does not function by making everything happen with the least possible effort for the Lazy and Stupid!

    That kind of society has No Future.....

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    The problem here is liguid makes claims he finds in the media. If he bothered to check the latest bills, HB6 and SB7 he'd be hard-pressed to find anything at all about reduced extended hours.

    His reasoning is likewise flawed. He expresses personal incredulity as to why something is in the bill and then reaches for a Democratic twisting of intentions. Take the ban on Sunday morning voting. The expressed reason was to allow polling workers a chance to attend church. But he ignores that for the race-card-playing "to stop 'souls to the polls' initiatives by black church congregations." All moot for it's not in the bill.
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