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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Can anyone think of a socialist state where power wasn't "condensed" at the top?
    "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    Nope, nobody is excusing the Cuban government. We're saying that the American embargo is making it harder to reform Cuba. But I guess you Fashies like that.
    I don't expect you to argue from facts. We? There is no we behind you unless you're claiming socks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    Civility politics? What are you, a Liberal?
    The point is you hide behind childish name-calling when you run out of rational arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    So I have a secret for you. EVERY society involves people relying on each other. Even in anarchist societies, people would form tribes in order to survive.
    What Marx is saying in that quote is that everyone should contribute what they can. That in no way contradicts the idea that we all have human rights.

    Under Capitalism, we have less freedom because power is condensed among the elitists. Whereas with Socialism, power is more evenly spread throughout society. Things like collectivization of the means of production give the workers a voice. If anything, this is more in the spirit of human rights than Capitalism is. And we'd still have personal responsibility. We'd have more power, but we'd still have to work and take care of ourselves.

    Look at Cuba. Under Marxist socialism, power is "condensed" unto a very few elites. The people are not free. This "we" you speak of is a fantasy.

    The whole idea of capitalism is respect for private property. None of that under socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Can anyone think of a socialist state where power wasn't "condensed" at the top?
    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Along with wealth.
    I think Queen is the Red Queen out of Alice in Wonderland.
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    Think that was the first time BLM praised the Marxist government of Cuba? Think again.

    Black Lives Matter glorified Cuban dictator Fidel Castro: 'Fidel Vive!'

    Black Lives Matter's recent praise of Cuba's government isn't the first time that BLM has praised the country's communist regime.

    BLM previously glorified Cuban dictator Fidel Castro in an online post following his death in November 2016.

    "We are feeling many things as we awaken to a world without Fidel Castro. There is an overwhelming sense of loss, complicated by fear and anxiety. Although no leader is without their flaws, we must push back against the rhetoric of the right and come to the defense of El Comandante," the post said.

    Castro's communist revolution included mass executions and imprisonment of political opponents.

    BLM's 2016 post outlined "the lessons that we take from Fidel."

    "From Fidel, we know that revolution is sparked by an idea, by radical imaginings, which sometimes take root first among just a few dozen people coming together in the mountains."

    In the post, BLM also expressed gratitude to Castro for harboring Assata Shakur, a convicted cop-killer who fled to Cuba after she escaped from prison in 1979. "As a Black network committed to transformation, we are particularly grateful to Fidel for holding Mama Assata Shakur, who continues to inspire us."

    "As Fidel ascends to the realm of the ancestors, we summon his guidance, strength, and power as we recommit ourselves to the struggle for universal freedom," the post concluded. "Fidel Vive!"

    ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    Because the principles of Socialism are more moral and pragmatic than those of Capitalism.
    I'm not actually a Marxist, but Marxism would be much better than Capitalism.
    History proves you wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    How many BLM protesters have you heard or read talk about collectivization of the means of production, direct democracy, or the decommodification of essential services?

    The media just calls them "Marxist" because they know Conservatives are stupid and think "Marxism" is a scary word. You might as well call them Nazis, it essentially means the same thing to the conservatard cucks.
    BLM rank and file members are likely as clueless as you about Marxism. But their leaders are on the record claiming to be Marxists and Marxist trained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    BLM rank and file members are likely as clueless as you about Marxism. But their leaders are on the record claiming to be Marxists and Marxist trained.
    And then those trained Marxists get rich off of capitalism.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    So I have a secret for you. EVERY society involves people relying on each other. Even in anarchist societies, people would form tribes in order to survive.
    What Marx is saying in that quote is that everyone should contribute what they can. That in no way contradicts the idea that we all have human rights.

    Under Capitalism, we have less freedom because power is condensed among the elitists. Whereas with Socialism, power is more evenly spread throughout society. Things like collectivization of the means of production give the workers a voice. If anything, this is more in the spirit of human rights than Capitalism is. And we'd still have personal responsibility. We'd have more power, but we'd still have to work and take care of ourselves.
    What socialist or communist nation was actually run that way?
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