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    Quote Originally Posted by Now_What View Post
    Minority unemployment and crime rates went up under trump. I would hardly call him an expert…
    Trumpers like to pretend that his term ended in January 2020. But, the fact is that he was the first present since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Trumpers like to pretend that his term ended in January 2020. But, the fact is that he was the first present since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office.
    Exactly right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Trumpers like to pretend that his term ended in January 2020. But, the fact is that he was the first present since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office.
    Quote Originally Posted by Now_What View Post
    Exactly right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How you two delight in the effects of Covid 19 is amazing!
    Blaming COVID now? Is Biden allowed to use that excuse then, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Trump has had his run.
    Yes, he would devastate any chance for a conservative to win in 2024.
    He is too toxic for moderates, and it is moderates who determine the next president.
    Running Trump would doom us to four to eight more years of a Democrat in the White House. Trump might be able to defeat Harris, who is a terrible candidate. But as I said before, the elite will never let Trump be president again, no matter what they have to do. And the left is so triggered by him, even if he was elected his four years would be far uglier than his first term. If you thought the left lied about him and attacked him then, you haven't seen anything yet. The atmosphere in the country wouldn't be good.

    I am grateful to Trump for what he did and for setting a direction. Now he should enjoy his retirement. As I've said before, I would like to see DeSantis run. The left will lose their minds over him too, but maybe their heads won't spin around quite so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Trumpers like to pretend that his term ended in January 2020. But, the fact is that he was the first present since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office.
    Totally irrelevant point. The Governors of the Democrat states that continued their shut downs were entirely responsible for that talking point.

    You are actually bragging the Democrat states sabotage the economy by remaining closed just so that you could have the talking point for the election.

    Had NY, CA, MI and the other blue states opened like the Red States then that fact would be far from true.

    But thank you for the reminder. Cuomo is not only a rapist and the murderer of 15,000 seniors but he also sabotaged the economy of NY with the help of Newsom, Whitmer, Murphy... all for political reasons and they killed more people doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Trumpers like to pretend that his term ended in January 2020. But, the fact is that he was the first present since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office.
    How weak such a comparison looks, and well you know it. It makes you look weak to use it. Selective reasoning, the tool of those who can't forumlate a better argument.
    "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    How weak such a comparison looks, and well you know it. It makes you look weak to use it. Selective reasoning, the tool of those who can't forumlate a better argument.
    Lol. What is truly selective reasoning is trying to defend Trump by ignoring the disaster of his last 12 months in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Lol. What is truly selective reasoning is trying to defend Trump by ignoring the disaster of his last 12 months in office.
    Oh really? How did Trump create a disaster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Lol. What is truly selective reasoning is trying to defend Trump by ignoring the disaster of his last 12 months in office.
    I'm surprised you'd even say that. You seem like a reasonably intelligent person for a leftist, Harvard

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