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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Get the flu shot or don't. No one should care.
    Same with The Jab.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Covid is not a cold. It is not the flu. Lying from the right doesn't do it any more than lying from the left.
    For some demographics the flu is actually more deadly. Did you know that?
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    For some demographics the flu is actually more deadly. Did you know that?
    No, it isn't.

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...flu-data-shows


    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html



    Symptomatic Illnesses Medical Visits Hospitalizations Deaths
    Season Estimate 95% U I Estimate 95% U I Estimate 95% U I Estimate 95% U I
    2010-2011 21,000,000 (20,000,000 – 25,000,000) 10,000,000 (9,300,000 – 12,000,000) 290,000 (270,000 – 350,000) 37,000 (32,000 – 51,000)
    2011-2012 9,300,000 (8,700,000 – 12,000,000) 4,300,000 (4,000,000 – 5,600,000) 140,000 (130,000 – 190,000) 12,000 (11,000 – 23,000)
    2012-2013 34,000,000 (32,000,000 – 38,000,000) 16,000,000 (15,000,000 – 18,000,000) 570,000 (530,000 – 680,000) 43,000 (37,000 – 57,000)
    2013-2014 30,000,000 (28,000,000 – 33,000,000) 13,000,000 (12,000,000 – 15,000,000) 350,000 (320,000 – 390,000) 38,000 (33,000 – 50,000)
    2014-2015 30,000,000 (29,000,000 – 33,000,000) 14,000,000 (13,000,000 – 16,000,000) 590,000 (540,000 – 680,000) 51,000 (44,000 – 64,000)
    2015-2016 24,000,000 (20,000,000 – 33,000,000) 11,000,000 (9,000,000 – 15,000,000) 280,000 (220,000 – 480,000) 23,000 (17,000 – 35,000)
    2016-2017 29,000,000 (25,000,000 – 45,000,000) 14,000,000 (11,000,000 – 23,000,000) 500,000 (380,000 – 860,000) 38,000 (29,000 – 61,000)
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    A common cold is indeed caused by a coronavirus.


    Influenza is not a coronavirus. There are a lot of similarities in the symptoms of each and the means of transmission. One similarity is that deaths are not common. The recovery rate from COVID-19 is greater than 99%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Get the flu shot or don't. No one should care.
    But COVID is like the flu or less to a 20 year old kid. Age groups really matter on this statement. When someone Etheral talks about moving to FL after he graduates then I have to assume he sees this as a minor risk like the flu. For those of us that are not so young the risk is large. Heavy or not. Illnesses or not. So we get the vaccine. At his age and claim of fitness a different view on risk is justifiable. And he does not want to be told what to do, so the hen pecking of the media makes it less likely that he will get the shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    No, it isn't.

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...flu-data-shows


    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html



    Symptomatic Illnesses Medical Visits Hospitalizations Deaths
    Season Estimate 95% U I Estimate 95% U I Estimate 95% U I Estimate 95% U I
    2010-2011 21,000,000 (20,000,000 – 25,000,000) 10,000,000 (9,300,000 – 12,000,000) 290,000 (270,000 – 350,000) 37,000 (32,000 – 51,000)
    2011-2012 9,300,000 (8,700,000 – 12,000,000) 4,300,000 (4,000,000 – 5,600,000) 140,000 (130,000 – 190,000) 12,000 (11,000 – 23,000)
    2012-2013 34,000,000 (32,000,000 – 38,000,000) 16,000,000 (15,000,000 – 18,000,000) 570,000 (530,000 – 680,000) 43,000 (37,000 – 57,000)
    2013-2014 30,000,000 (28,000,000 – 33,000,000) 13,000,000 (12,000,000 – 15,000,000) 350,000 (320,000 – 390,000) 38,000 (33,000 – 50,000)
    2014-2015 30,000,000 (29,000,000 – 33,000,000) 14,000,000 (13,000,000 – 16,000,000) 590,000 (540,000 – 680,000) 51,000 (44,000 – 64,000)
    2015-2016 24,000,000 (20,000,000 – 33,000,000) 11,000,000 (9,000,000 – 15,000,000) 280,000 (220,000 – 480,000) 23,000 (17,000 – 35,000)
    2016-2017 29,000,000 (25,000,000 – 45,000,000) 14,000,000 (11,000,000 – 23,000,000) 500,000 (380,000 – 860,000) 38,000 (29,000 – 61,000)
    If you are 15-24 in 2020 then the death rate was 1.4
    If you are 25-35 in 2020 then the death rate was 5.5

    Influenza in a normal year would have a death rate in age group of 18-49 of 2.5
    I used 2013-2014 Influenza numbers because that was a normal year for deaths at about 35,000.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2013-2014.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8030985/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    A common cold is indeed caused by a coronavirus.


    Influenza is not a coronavirus. There are a lot of similarities in the symptoms of each and the means of transmission. One similarity is that deaths are not common. The recovery rate from COVID-19 is greater than 99%.
    Try reading the post about the flu and covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    If you are 15-24 in 2020 then the death rate was 1.4
    If you are 25-35 in 2020 then the death rate was 5.5

    Influenza in a normal year would have a death rate in age group of 18-49 of 2.5
    I used 2013-2014 Influenza numbers because that was a normal year for deaths at about 35,000.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2013-2014.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8030985/
    The flu kills less in any age group.
    Covid is still more dangerous than the flu.
    Last edited by Captdon; 08-03-2021 at 10:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Try reading the post about the flu and covid.
    Try responding like a grown up instead of your usual garbage
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    In further observations, Republicans typically make gains in low-turnout elections, which tells you they aren't very good at eating the Democratic base of support, but also that there is, in reality, an often unmotivated, very edible base of support there. (Yum!) Which mainly consists of its working class. I wouldn't predict Republican landslides either this fall or next, but I would predict Republican gains owing to an enthusiasm gap favoring them emerging, including the GOP retaking the House of Representatives next year, based on the current trajectory of things. I believe these shifts are real not only based on the polling data available, but also based on my own experience just living as a working class woman who voted for Biden. Shifts in my own thinking and focus are reflected in these surveys. I've gone from relieved by vaccines and hopeful for a "Biden blitz" of legislation I mostly support after seeing the initial raft of executive orders he signed at the outset to viewing this as a lax, weak administration that embraces a largely hands-off approach to everything from rising crime to foreign policy to border policy to kinda even the virus nowadays and mostly defers to Congress when it comes to his own legislative policies in the name of partisan and bi-partisan unity, etc. There's just an emerging theme of not really caring and pretty much just letting everything go to hell, in my observation. I suspect people who live like me may indeed think somewhat like me about this situation.

    I would add though that the Democrats can minimize the damage by passing laws. The infrastructure and family bills currently being considered in Congress poll twice as well as the Republican tax cut of 2017, enjoying 70 and 63% public support respectively in the most recent survey I saw. Successful passage of these bills before the fall election cycle begins in earnest next month could tilt public opinion on the major voting issue that is the economy in a Democratic direction, whereas currently Biden and the Democrats statistically tie the Republicans on the issue. In order to actually keep the House in Democratic hands after next year's midterms though, the crime rates will need to fall, the virus will need to be fundamentally under control, and it might help here in Texas if the border situation weren't as chaotic as it presently is too, I mean if we're serious about turning the state blue in the near future anyway. I have doubts about that all actually happening.

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