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    Thoughts End Up Being Things.

    Note to the reader: I wrote this from the point of view of a Bible believing Evangelical,
    which is what I am. This piece has nothing to do with Norman V. Peele's The Power Of
    Positive Thinking.

    __________

    Thoughts End Up Becoming Things.
    By JAG
    July 30, 2021


    When you invite a thought into your mind, hold it there, and mix sympathy
    with it, that idea then becomes a nurtured thought that will take root in the
    garden of your mind and begin to grow. At some future point that thought
    will take on Real World substance and effect what you physically do ~~
    after all, you nurtured it with sympathy and agreement, you gave it support,
    you encouraged it, and you told it, "You are most welcome to take up
    permanent residence inside my mind", therefore that thought is going to
    play a big role in your life in Real World.


    If that guest-in-your-mind-thought is a positive constructive Faith-in-God
    thought, then it will produce Faith, Hope, and Confidence, resulting in such
    beliefs as I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.


    Both Fear-thoughts and Faith-thoughts end up becoming things. Here, to
    illustrate the principle, is how a Fear-thought becomes a physical thing:
    The Fear-thought:
    BASED UPON DEMONSTRATABLE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCES, STATISTICS
    PROVE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PERCENT CHANCE THAT I WILL BE
    SERIOUSLY HURT DUE TO AN ACCIDENT WHILE DRIVING MY VEHICLE.
    Now if you do the following:
    (1) Invite that Fear-thought into your mind
    (2) Hold it there and dwell upon it
    (3) Mix sympathy with it (tell yourself over and over, yes its true)
    (4) Keep on doing (1), (2), and (3) (that is, keep on nurturing that thought
    (5) Then that Fear-thought will take root in the field of your mind . . .
    (6) And begin to grow strong and . . .
    (7) Soon it will produce Real World physical realities. You will begin to
    experience debilitating fear, anxiety, and frustration ~~ and if you keep
    on doing (1) through (6) up there, at some point the sustained fear, anxiety,
    and frustration will start producing Real World physical effects such as
    headaches, sweating, trembling, shaking, stuttering, and twitching. This
    ugly reality will greatly reduce your ability to get things done in Real World.


    Now lets look at what a Faith-thought can produce:
    A Faith-thought:
    GOD LOVES ME AND GOD IS MY FATHER, AND MY LOVING HEAVENLY
    FATHER HAS PROMISED TO ALWAYS BE WITH ME, AND TO HELP ME
    WITH ALL MY PROBLEMS, AND HE HAS PROMISED THAT ALL MY
    PROBLEMS WILL EVENTUALLY BE WORKED OUT BY HIM FOR
    MY ULTIMATE GOOD, AND SO I LIVE MY LIFE FULLY TRUSTING
    IN HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HE WILL ALWAYS BE WITH ME AND TAKE
    GOOD CARE OF ME BECAUSE HE LOVES ME.

    If you invite that Faith-thought into your mind, hold it there, mix sympathy with
    it, and keep on doing this, then this powerful Love-Faith-Thought will take root
    in the soil of your mind and grow strong and powerful. It will produce Real World
    realities: you will have more Confidence, more Faith and Trust, you will Laugh
    and Smile more, and you'll be able to get things done much easier. Your Real
    World accomplishments will increase in numbers and quality. You will be happy.
    You will enjoy living. Might even become a Mover and Shaker World Changer.
    Many have done that ~ so it is doable. And this Love-Faith-Thought will attract
    a host of its relatives ~ cousins, nephews, aunts and uncles, and they will take
    up residence in your mind. Relatives like Hope, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness,
    Gentleness, and Faithfulness.


    By the way, do we humans have a subconscious mind? i don't know if we do or
    not. Some confidently say we do. Some also assuredly say Bigfoot walks about
    in Real World. Lets assume that Bigfoot is a zany myth and that we do have a
    subconscious mind where "all the material not currently inhabiting our conscious
    mind is stored. Every memory, skill, experience, feeling, thought is housed in our
    subconscious mind."__off the web. If this is true, then our minds have sort of a
    basement (or attic if you prefer) and there in that subliminal basement we store
    our brain-stuff. This seems harmless enough. Anyway, our subconscious mind
    is just one more good reason to always put only good positive uplifting thoughts
    into our minds.


    The thoughts we humans put into our minds and hold there and nurture, will
    determine if we live a life of Faith, Hope, and Love or a life of Doubt, Despair,
    and Loathing. Therefore God Himself speaks to us about this and says:
    "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is
    right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable ~ if anything
    is excellent or praiseworthy ~ think about such things." (Philippians 4:8)


    In conclusion, one of the most comforting uplifting and encouraging thoughts
    we can ever hold in our minds is the truth that God loves us and sent His Son
    the Lord Jesus to die in our stead on Calvary's Cross. "For God so loved the
    world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall
    not perish but have eternal life" ~ and that God has long term huge enormous
    good plans for us ~ to make us conformed to the image of the Lord Jesus
    (Romans 8:29) and when this process is finally at last finished, we will then
    be able to do the utterly amazing, and our Real World accomplishments will
    be breathtaking and awe-inspiring ~ we're going to the stars, my friend.


    []


    PS
    Thank You Father, Lord Jesus, Holy Spirit for loving us and saving us.

    __________


    Agree or disagree with the OP?




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    Well, that's very new-agey, but if you remove all the references to God and faith, you'll still have the same process, one that has been taught by numerous belief systems over the ages, and one that's also taught in absence of any belief system.

    The Rosicrucians honed that process to a fine art.

    There is a lot to positive thought, how it helps focus a mind on the solutions one seeks.

    There is, however, no need to go through any doubtful stages. Those aren't required and they can throw the process out of whack.
    "What happens is of little significance compared with the stories we tell ourselves about what happens. Events matter little, only stories of events
    affect us.

    ~Rabih Alameddin


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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Well, that's very new-agey, but if you remove all the references to God and faith, you'll still have the same process, one that has been taught by numerous belief systems over the ages, and one that's also taught in absence of any belief system.

    The Rosicrucians honed that process to a fine art.

    There is a lot to positive thought, how it helps focus a mind on the solutions one seeks.

    There is, however, no need to go through any doubtful stages. Those aren't required and they can throw the process out of whack.
    Thanks for your input.

    I wrote the OP from the point of view of a Bible believing Evangelical,
    which is what I am. This piece has nothing to do with New Age thinking
    or The Power Of
    Positive Thinking or any self-help literature.

    Best

    JAG

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    "When you invite a thought into your mind, hold it there, and mix sympathy
    with it, that idea then becomes a nurtured thought that will take root in the
    garden of your mind and begin to grow. At some future point that thought
    will take on Real World substance..."

    You have to act on it. It's actions that change things.
    Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.
    Louis Brandeis,Dissenting, Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1928)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG View Post
    Thanks for your input.

    I wrote the OP from the point of view of a Bible believing Evangelical,
    which is what I am. This piece has nothing to do with New Age thinking
    or The Power Of
    Positive Thinking or any self-help literature.

    Best

    JAG
    I know you did, but what I'm saying is that the process you described is ancient and it runs through virtually all religions and cultures. Your specific wording just reminded me of new age thought.

    Sages, philosophers, and prophets throughout the ages have all shared the same idea, with varying degrees of how to achieve their goals.

    For a Christian, one simple scripture fully encapsulates the idea--Mark 11:24--that's it, that's all there is to it.

    You are on to something, you're just making it more complicated than it has to be.
    "What happens is of little significance compared with the stories we tell ourselves about what happens. Events matter little, only stories of events
    affect us.

    ~Rabih Alameddin


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    It's amazing how often your brain starts telling you.not only things yoi will likely do but what another it others are going to do. It's a highly complex combo of things that are hard to entertain and process but it's always there.
    I've had an event recently that is a life changing event. My brain or maybe instincts have been seeing this play out for two months. I didn't see obvious outward clues but suddenly it appeared by complete surprise from nowhere
    .it took.my.joy, my clarity ,.my ability to feel happiness ,my hopes she even my.sense of well being away. The saving grace is hmm. Honestly ? It changed me and has began to torture me in my nightmares.
    Moral of story? Regardless of how secure, happy , loved or if you feel like a person it can be taken from you In minutes.
    Don't assume you will aiways have the answers when needed, a solution, a way to fix problems or even a way to be proximate to the other person or that they will have any desire to fix things that are problematic but amazingly not even identified , has a name in a book or to a admitted as a problem etc . Even if you know the manner in which to fix it be careful because solutions are not usually desired by the exiting party. If they were desired why exit ? Love hurts
    Last edited by Cotton1; 08-02-2021 at 05:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    "When you invite a thought into your mind, hold it there, and mix sympathy
    with it, that idea then becomes a nurtured thought that will take root in the
    garden of your mind and begin to grow. At some future point that thought
    will take on Real World substance..."

    You have to act on it. It's actions that change things.
    That's a good point.
    One major assumption of the OP is that the thoughts you HOLD in your mind,
    mixed with sympathy (ie hearty agreement), and nurtured as explained in the OP,
    will end up , , , , causing one to take action on that thought.

    Best.

    JAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    I know you did, but what I'm saying is that the process you described is ancient and it runs through virtually all religions and cultures. Your specific wording just reminded me of new age thought.

    Sages, philosophers, and prophets throughout the ages have all shared the same idea, with varying degrees of how to achieve their goals.

    For a Christian, one simple scripture fully encapsulates the idea--Mark 11:24--that's it, that's all there is to it.

    You are on to something, you're just making it more complicated than it has to be.
    I looked up Mark 11:24.
    Thanks for the verse and thanks for the points you made.

    By the way, most of us know about Luke 17:6 where Jesus
    said, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can
    SAY to this mulberry tree, be uprooted and planted in the sea,
    and it will obey you."

    There is a whole class of passages that gives specific examples of
    people whose faith-thoughts changed their reality. I have a list
    ~ here is just one of 'em:

    "Go", said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received
    his sight . . ." Mark 10:52

    I have been trying to discover exactly HOW to appropriate this law
    (an obviously workable law) but no success so far. At this point I
    do not know how to apply the faith principle to actually change
    physical reality ~ unless its happening in "slow motion"
    and I just don't recognize the success. Maybe that's it. Maybe its
    slowly working for me and I just don't recognize it? In fact I DO
    see a lot of good changes since I started (months ago) putting
    ONLY good positive thoughts into my mind.

    Best.

    JAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    It's amazing how often your brain starts telling you.not only things yoi will likely do but what another it others are going to do. It's a highly complex combo of things that are hard to entertain and process but it's always there.
    I've had an event recently that is a life changing event. My brain or maybe instincts have been seeing this play out for two months. I didn't see obvious outward clues but suddenly it appeared by complete surprise from nowhere
    .it took.my.joy, my clarity ,.my ability to feel happiness ,my hopes she even my.sense of well being away. The saving grace is hmm. Honestly ? It changed me and has began to torture me in my nightmares.
    Moral of story? Regardless of how secure, happy , loved or if you feel like a person it can be taken from you In minutes.
    Don't assume you will aiways have the answers when needed, a solution, a way to fix problems or even a way to be proximate to the other person or that they will have any desire to fix things that are problematic but amazingly not even identified , has a name in a book or to a admitted as a problem etc . Even if you know the manner in which to fix it be careful because solutions are not usually desired by the exiting party. If they were desired why exit ? Love hurts
    Thanks for the contribution.
    I hope everything ends up good for you and that any problems
    are only temporary.

    Best.

    JAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG View Post
    Thanks for the contribution.
    I hope everything ends up good for you and that any problems
    are only temporary.

    Best.

    JAG

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    That is so very kind and tboughtful of you. Words are scarce that can describe how you just warmed my heart and soul up. The sandbox is a cruel place

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