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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    So back to the topic, Hicks cites Kierkegaard anguishing over the story of God commanding Abraham to slay Isaak as the point at which morality is subverted to politics. Kierkegaard reasons that following God's command is immoral therefore there is a higher authority.
    Politics; how is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    They are presenting the philosophical roots of collectivism, not Progressivism.

    Identity politics is not civil rights.

    For the rest, yea, wut?
    Men gathered in a cave for warmth is a pretty good clue for a beginning: so, what did they think about that? What did they do when a bully tried to take over the watering hole? So, what does a collective really do?

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    Hicks, having presented an overview of the philosophies of Rousseau, Hegel, Marx, etc, is presented by O'Fallon a quick review of political events at the time, from WWI through the rise of Marxism. Hicks begins his response:

    uh what's the relationship between yeah
    large-scale politics and large-scale
    philosophy yes right and of course we
    can throw out some of the possibilities
    one is to say
    that the politics is going along and
    philosophical movements are adapting
    themselves or responding in the wake of
    grand
    political happenings so correct world
    war one happens for political say
    reasons
    and then we find the philosophers after
    trying to grapple with what does world
    war one mean and what should we do about
    it
    now the other way to then say it would
    be to say that the grand political
    events though are the playing out of
    intellectual movements
    uh that have been developed prior to
    that but those intellectual movements
    say are driven by
    earlier philosophical movements
    now i like that there's a quotation from
    lord bowling brook here that
    that i think is
    95 percent true of modern history and
    the quotation is
    history is philosophy teaching by
    example
    so that then is to say
    the grand battles are philosophical
    battles and the major historical events
    are instantiations of the philosophies
    and then you see
    what that theoretical philosophy means
    in practice


    In short, is philosophy explaining politics or is politics acting out philosophies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Hicks, having presented an overview of the philosophies of Rousseau, Hegel, Marx, etc, is presented by O'Fallon a quick review of political events at the time, from WWI through the rise of Marxism. Hicks begins his response:

    uh what's the relationship between yeah
    large-scale politics and large-scale
    philosophy yes right and of course we
    can throw out some of the possibilities
    one is to say
    that the politics is going along and
    philosophical movements are adapting
    themselves or responding in the wake of
    grand
    political happenings so correct world
    war one happens for political say
    reasons
    and then we find the philosophers after
    trying to grapple with what does world
    war one mean and what should we do about
    it
    now the other way to then say it would
    be to say that the grand political
    events though are the playing out of
    intellectual movements
    uh that have been developed prior to
    that but those intellectual movements
    say are driven by
    earlier philosophical movements
    now i like that there's a quotation from
    lord bowling brook here that
    that i think is
    95 percent true of modern history and
    the quotation is
    history is philosophy teaching by
    example
    so that then is to say
    the grand battles are philosophical
    battles and the major historical events
    are instantiations of the philosophies
    and then you see
    what that theoretical philosophy means
    in practice


    In short, is philosophy explaining politics or is politics acting out philosophies?
    wut

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