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    Two Charts Destroy Big Lie About ‘Climate Change’ And Wildfires.....

    It’s that time of year again, the season of headlines routinely screaming about “record” amounts of acreage burned from out-of-control wildfires caused by, of course, “climate change.” But is it true? Is global warming driving a surge in wildfires? The answer is no.


    The media started again this week with the release of the United Nation’s latest dire climate change report, based on the same faulty models and filled with more apocalyptic predictions that won’t come true.


    We could go on. It’s become an annual summer mantra from the media, this time driven by large wildfires that happen to coincide with the release of the U.N. report.


    The truth is, in the U.S. we are not at a “record” for wildfire burning by a longshot. As the charts below show, wildfire burns were far worse in the early- to mid-20th century, with massive amounts of acreage charred before there was any significant global warming to speak of.





    So based on 20th century history, the most recent fires are way below the levels in the 1920s and 1930s, when more than 50 million acres burned in some years. (The chart ends at 2017; more recent data show that from 2018 through 2020, wildfires averaged just under 7.9 million acres burned each year).



    Further underscoring the spurious correlation between wildfires and climate change is a related chart presented to Congress several years back during testimony by David B. South, an emeritus professor of forestry at Auburn University. It too is enlightening, because it’s one you’ll never see in the mainstream media. It shows the same wildfire data charted above against CO2 increases back to 1926.





    Again, no correlation whatsoever.


    Or as South noted in his 2014 testimony to Congress:


    [COLOR=rgba(17, 17, 17, 0.8)]Untrue claims about the underlying cause of wildfires can spread like ‘wildfire.’ … For example, the false idea that ‘Wildfires in 2012 burned a record 9.2 million acres in the U.S.’ is cited in numerous articles and is found on more than 2,000 web sites across the internet. In truth … in 1930, wildfires burned more than four times that amount. Wildfire in 2012 was certainly an issue of concern, but did those who push an agenda really need to make exaggerated claims to fool the public?


    [/COLOR]
    California, which has had some of the worst wildfires of all, passed rules that curtailed logging and forest clearing operations. Meanwhile, successive governors, from Arnold Schwarzenegger to Jerry Brown to current Gov. Gavin Newsom, have all blamed global warming for the fires.


    Better that than take responsibility for your own poor policies.


    That’s not to say that warmer temperatures don’t affect fires; they do. And “climate change” is a fact, because the climate is always changing. But “global warming” is not implicated because there’s been little or no change in the rate of warming since 1998.


    Given such priorities and the clear mismanagement of our nation’s forests, particularly in California, the recent increase in wildfires should come as no surprise. Those who blithely blame “climate change” for “record wildfires” are simply wrong......snip~


    Two Charts Destroy Big Lie About ‘Climate Change’ And Wildfires – Issues & Insights (issuesinsights.com)



    Another damaging hit to the Global Warming leftists.
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    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    But their models say....! LOL

    Environmental modeling is no different that any other modeling. You know what you want and then make the parts to fit the planned outcome.

    Environmental models are nothing but the desires of the builders so they can get what they want out of it.

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    That is in part the effort to put out natural lightning strike fires, to remove dense overgrowth in high risk areas, to monitor forests, ect.............


    Humans can be such $#@!s interfering with Mother Nature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    That is in part the effort to put out natural lightning strike fires, to remove dense overgrowth in high risk areas, to monitor forests, ect.............


    Humans can be such $#@!s interfering with Mother Nature!

    But “global warming” is not implicated because there’s been little or no change in the rate of warming since 1998.....snip~



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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    But their models say....! LOL

    Environmental modeling is no different that any other modeling. You know what you want and then make the parts to fit the planned outcome.

    Environmental models are nothing but the desires of the builders so they can get what they want out of it.
    How does the UN look now with their Red Alert Warning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It’s that time of year again, the season of headlines routinely screaming about “record” amounts of acreage burned from out-of-control wildfires caused by, of course, “climate change.” But is it true? Is global warming driving a surge in wildfires? The answer is no.


    The media started again this week with the release of the United Nation’s latest dire climate change report, based on the same faulty models and filled with more apocalyptic predictions that won’t come true.


    We could go on. It’s become an annual summer mantra from the media, this time driven by large wildfires that happen to coincide with the release of the U.N. report.


    The truth is, in the U.S. we are not at a “record” for wildfire burning by a longshot. As the charts below show, wildfire burns were far worse in the early- to mid-20th century, with massive amounts of acreage charred before there was any significant global warming to speak of.





    So based on 20th century history, the most recent fires are way below the levels in the 1920s and 1930s, when more than 50 million acres burned in some years. (The chart ends at 2017; more recent data show that from 2018 through 2020, wildfires averaged just under 7.9 million acres burned each year).



    Further underscoring the spurious correlation between wildfires and climate change is a related chart presented to Congress several years back during testimony by David B. South, an emeritus professor of forestry at Auburn University. It too is enlightening, because it’s one you’ll never see in the mainstream media. It shows the same wildfire data charted above against CO2 increases back to 1926.





    Again, no correlation whatsoever.


    Or as South noted in his 2014 testimony to Congress:


    [COLOR=rgba(17, 17, 17, 0.8)]Untrue claims about the underlying cause of wildfires can spread like ‘wildfire.’ … For example, the false idea that ‘Wildfires in 2012 burned a record 9.2 million acres in the U.S.’ is cited in numerous articles and is found on more than 2,000 web sites across the internet. In truth … in 1930, wildfires burned more than four times that amount. Wildfire in 2012 was certainly an issue of concern, but did those who push an agenda really need to make exaggerated claims to fool the public?


    [/COLOR]
    California, which has had some of the worst wildfires of all, passed rules that curtailed logging and forest clearing operations. Meanwhile, successive governors, from Arnold Schwarzenegger to Jerry Brown to current Gov. Gavin Newsom, have all blamed global warming for the fires.


    Better that than take responsibility for your own poor policies.


    That’s not to say that warmer temperatures don’t affect fires; they do. And “climate change” is a fact, because the climate is always changing. But “global warming” is not implicated because there’s been little or no change in the rate of warming since 1998.


    Given such priorities and the clear mismanagement of our nation’s forests, particularly in California, the recent increase in wildfires should come as no surprise. Those who blithely blame “climate change” for “record wildfires” are simply wrong......snip~


    Two Charts Destroy Big Lie About ‘Climate Change’ And Wildfires – Issues & Insights (issuesinsights.com)



    Another damaging hit to the Global Warming leftists.
    You are so damn convincing. I guess, twenty bucks is twenty bucks. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docthehun View Post
    You are so damn convincing. I guess, twenty bucks is twenty bucks. Carry on.
    Yep.....Been told. I be like that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    But their models say....! LOL

    Environmental modeling is no different that any other modeling. You know what you want and then make the parts to fit the planned outcome.

    Environmental models are nothing but the desires of the builders so they can get what they want out of it.
    Which you know Liquids would fall for just with his assuming.
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    That’s not to say that warmer temperatures don’t affect fires; they do. And “climate change” is a fact, because the climate is always changing. But “global warming” is not implicated because there’s been little or no change in the rate of warming since 1998.....snip~



    Global warming has STALLED since 1998: Met Office admits Earth's temperature is rising slower than first thought

    • Earlier forecasts predicted a much steeper rise in global temperatures
    • But latest figures from Met Office show slower rise than previously warned
    • Figures raise questions about the true danger posed by greenhouse gasses


    The Met Office has admitted that global warming has stalled.
    Officials say that by 2017, temperatures will not have risen significantly for nearly 20 years.
    They concede that previous forecasts were inaccurate – and have come under fire for attempting to ‘bury bad news’ by publishing the revised data on Christmas Eve.






    Dr David Whitehouse, science adviser to the Global Warming Policy Foundation, said: ‘That the global temperature standstill could continue to at least 2017 would mean a 20-year period of no statistically significant change in global temperatures.
    ‘Such a period of no increase will pose fundamental problems for climate models. If the latest Met Office prediction is correct, then it will prove to be a lesson in humility.’


    However, Dr Richard Allan of the University of Reading said: ‘Global warming is not “at a standstill” but does seem to have slowed down since 2000, in comparison to the rapid warming of the world since the 1970s.


    Labour MP Graham Stringer said the Met Office’s short-term forecasts had improved, but their climate change analysis was ‘poor’......snip~



    Professor Myles Allen of the University of Oxford said: ‘A lot of people were claiming, in the run-up to the Copenhagen 2009 conference, that warming was accelerating and it is all worse than we thought.
    ‘What has happened since then has demonstrated that it is foolish to extrapolate short-term climate trends......snip~


    Global warming: Met Office releases revised global temperature predictions showing planet is NOT rapidly heating up | Daily Mail Online
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