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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    That's what we want, too. For teachers to teach our nation's children the truth and the facts, and not to impose their political views on young impressionable minds.
    the truth??? like blacks murder whites at TEN times the rate of vice versa? or blacks commit hate crimes at TWICE the rate....they want to teach ''HATE whitey''' .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Ah, the Trump cultists are really going hog wild with their cancel culutre.

    How do we know this? Because nobody is teaching CRT. They're all lying about that, and they all know they're lying.

    So why do they lie? Because they want all discussion of racism made illegal, and because Stalinsts can't help but want to censor. They tell a big lie that any discussion of racism is CRT, then make a law saying it's illegal to teach CRT. That way, they can jail anyone disucssing racism.
    Certainly I foresee a danger in allowing the pendulum to swing too far in the other direction, in terms of discussing racism. I don't believe - and I hope I'm right - that not even the most fervent anti-CRT advocate wants all discussion of the racism that has infected our nation's history banned...only the idea that the institutionalized racism of the past is still operating at full speed and that all White people are willing accomplices in its perpetuation. I don't pretend to have read every law or proposed law on the subject, but of those I have read the wording doesn't ban all discussion of racism - just the use of the charge of racism to condemn, marginalize and insult individuals whose only offense is being Caucasian, and to malign our social and government institutions unfairly and to the detriment of peace and justice.

    Increasingly I see any White person who presumes to disagree with or criticize any Black person about virtually anything whatsoever labeled a "racist" - and I see such charges coming from individuals in political office, in the media, from academia and even from the pulpit. Opposing the teaching of CRT to our children and grandchildren should be the common cause of all people of good will, regardless of race or ethnicity; unfortunately too many people of color see the whole controversy as an "us vs. them" situation, and, without really making any effort to understand what CRT in its undiluted form is​, equate opposition to its teaching with racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Certainly I foresee a danger in allowing the pendulum to swing too far in the other direction, in terms of discussing racism. I don't believe - and I hope I'm right - that not even the most fervent anti-CRT advocate wants all discussion of the racism that has infected our nation's history banned...only the idea that the institutionalized racism of the past is still operating at full speed and that all White people are willing accomplices in its perpetuation. I don't pretend to have read every law or proposed law on the subject, but of those I have read the wording doesn't ban all discussion of racism - just the use of the charge of racism to condemn, marginalize and insult individuals whose only offense is being Caucasian, and to malign our social and government institutions unfairly and to the detriment of peace and justice.

    Increasingly I see any White person who presumes to disagree with or criticize any Black person about virtually anything whatsoever labeled a "racist" - and I see such charges coming from individuals in political office, in the media, from academia and even from the pulpit. Opposing the teaching of CRT to our children and grandchildren should be the common cause of all people of good will, regardless of race or ethnicity; unfortunately too many people of color see the whole controversy as an "us vs. them" situation, and, without really making any effort to understand what CRT in its undiluted form is​, equate opposition to its teaching with racism.
    Of course not. All anti-CRT want taught is real history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Certainly I foresee a danger in allowing the pendulum to swing too far in the other direction, in terms of discussing racism. I don't believe - and I hope I'm right - that not even the most fervent anti-CRT advocate wants all discussion of the racism that has infected our nation's history banned...only the idea that the institutionalized racism of the past is still operating at full speed and that all White people are willing accomplices in its perpetuation. I don't pretend to have read every law or proposed law on the subject, but of those I have read the wording doesn't ban all discussion of racism - just the use of the charge of racism to condemn, marginalize and insult individuals whose only offense is being Caucasian, and to malign our social and government institutions unfairly and to the detriment of peace and justice.

    Increasingly I see any White person who presumes to disagree with or criticize any Black person about virtually anything whatsoever labeled a "racist" - and I see such charges coming from individuals in political office, in the media, from academia and even from the pulpit. Opposing the teaching of CRT to our children and grandchildren should be the common cause of all people of good will, regardless of race or ethnicity; unfortunately too many people of color see the whole controversy as an "us vs. them" situation, and, without really making any effort to understand what CRT in its undiluted form is​, equate opposition to its teaching with racism.
    Good post!

    The original intent of the study of Critical Race Theory from my research, sought to understand why Civil Rights laws didn't result in a more natural blending of our society. We still have de facto segregation, and the interesting thing is that it's more prevalent in northern, democratic-run cities and states than it is in the south.

    Sure, racism still exists--actually, it seems to be increasing as a result of insisting our society and the status quo is inherently racist.

    I get the feeling that Western society, its values, and the US specifically, are being singled out and publicly convicted of intentional destruction of humanity and the planet we live on. It all seems to be connected at some level--cultural oppression, climate change, Capitalism.

    CRT doesn't recognize that today's society offers the means by which anyone can succeed if they are 1) smart enough, 2) insightful enough, 3) motivated enough, 4) in the right place at the right time. Certainly, it's harder for those living in poverty, and a larger percentage of blacks live in poverty, but it's possible. EOE and anti-discrimination laws make it possible.

    It's the blanket generalities that CRT espouses that are harmful.

    • If a black person fails to excel, it's not the person's fault, it's the fault of a white society.
    • If a white person succeeds, it is not due to their own abilities, but rather because they're white.
    • Western societal norms, even though they created the greatest free nation the world has ever known, is inherently corrupt and must be dismantled.
    • Not only is it important to lift blacks up--it's essential to lower the status of whites and their ability to succeed.
    • A sense of ancestral shame must be incorporated into today's white society.
    • Blending into the American mainstream will destroy black culture.
    • Whites have oppressed minorities to such an extent over the centuries, that it's now okay for minorities to take what they want, even if it means breaking our laws to do it.

    So, yes, I can see where parents don't want CRT taught in schools--it doesn't reflect reality--and it doesn't encourage inclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Good post!

    The original intent of the study of Critical Race Theory from my research, sought to understand why Civil Rights laws didn't result in a more natural blending of our society. We still have de facto segregation, and the interesting thing is that it's more prevalent in northern, democratic-run cities and states than it is in the south.

    Sure, racism still exists--actually, it seems to be increasing as a result of insisting our society and the status quo is inherently racist.

    I get the feeling that Western society, its values, and the US specifically, are being singled out and publicly convicted of intentional destruction of humanity and the planet we live on. It all seems to be connected at some level--cultural oppression, climate change, Capitalism.

    CRT doesn't recognize that today's society offers the means by which anyone can succeed if they are 1) smart enough, 2) insightful enough, 3) motivated enough, 4) in the right place at the right time. Certainly, it's harder for those living in poverty, and a larger percentage of blacks live in poverty, but it's possible. EOE and anti-discrimination laws make it possible.

    It's the blanket generalities that CRT espouses that are harmful.

    • If a black person fails to excel, it's not the person's fault, it's the fault of a white society.
    • If a white person succeeds, it is not due to their own abilities, but rather because they're white.
    • Western societal norms, even though they created the greatest free nation the world has ever known, is inherently corrupt and must be dismantled.
    • Not only is it important to lift blacks up--it's essential to lower the status of whites and their ability to succeed.
    • A sense of ancestral shame must be incorporated into today's white society.
    • Blending into the American mainstream will destroy black culture.
    • Whites have oppressed minorities to such an extent over the centuries, that it's now okay for minorities to take what they want, even if it means breaking our laws to do it.
    So, yes, I can see where parents don't want CRT taught in schools--it doesn't reflect reality--and it doesn't encourage inclusion.
    That is the official line. CRT was brought to the West by KGB agents as a disinformation campaign which was part of the Soviet plan to destroy the West from within. CRT's part in that plan is to divide people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    That is the official line. CRT was brought to the West by KGB agents as a disinformation campaign which was part of the Soviet plan to destroy the West from within. CRT's part in that plan is to divide people.

    Its clear they tricked Black Lying Marxists and Democrats. Shouldnt be a surprise. The Demos were close with the Russian Communists going back to Truman. When he put Alger Hiss in the State Dept. Then refused to investigate the Associated Press and the NY Times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    That is the official line. CRT was brought to the West by KGB agents as a disinformation campaign which was part of the Soviet plan to destroy the West from within. CRT's part in that plan is to divide people.
    Agreed, and it's creeping into many aspects of our society.

    We're becoming more divided and weakened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its clear they tricked Black Lying Marxists and Democrats. Shouldnt be a surprise. The Demos were close with the Russian Communists going back to Truman. When he put Alger Hiss in the State Dept. Then refused to investigate the Associated Press and the NY Times.
    FDR had a senior advisor who was a Soviet agent or source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    FDR had a senior advisor who was a Soviet agent or source.
    Dont forget Ted Kennedy.....contacted the Russian President to get help to try and stop Reagans re-election. You know the Deviants Conscience of the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Good post!

    The original intent of the study of Critical Race Theory from my research, sought to understand why Civil Rights laws didn't result in a more natural blending of our society. We still have de facto segregation, and the interesting thing is that it's more prevalent in northern, democratic-run cities and states than it is in the south.

    Sure, racism still exists--actually, it seems to be increasing as a result of insisting our society and the status quo is inherently racist.

    I get the feeling that Western society, its values, and the US specifically, are being singled out and publicly convicted of intentional destruction of humanity and the planet we live on. It all seems to be connected at some level--cultural oppression, climate change, Capitalism.

    CRT doesn't recognize that today's society offers the means by which anyone can succeed if they are 1) smart enough, 2) insightful enough, 3) motivated enough, 4) in the right place at the right time. Certainly, it's harder for those living in poverty, and a larger percentage of blacks live in poverty, but it's possible. EOE and anti-discrimination laws make it possible.

    It's the blanket generalities that CRT espouses that are harmful.

    • If a black person fails to excel, it's not the person's fault, it's the fault of a white society.
    • If a white person succeeds, it is not due to their own abilities, but rather because they're white.
    • Western societal norms, even though they created the greatest free nation the world has ever known, is inherently corrupt and must be dismantled.
    • Not only is it important to lift blacks up--it's essential to lower the status of whites and their ability to succeed.
    • A sense of ancestral shame must be incorporated into today's white society.
    • Blending into the American mainstream will destroy black culture.
    • Whites have oppressed minorities to such an extent over the centuries, that it's now okay for minorities to take what they want, even if it means breaking our laws to do it.

    So, yes, I can see where parents don't want CRT taught in schools--it doesn't reflect reality--and it doesn't encourage inclusion.

    The thing to recognize is CRT was originally an academic legal theory taken up by a few professors and grad students. It assumed systemic racism and found it in outcomes and constructed narratives to connect the two. In time it was adopted by others in the humanities, social studies, black studies, educations, and even science. This has remained largely academic and esoteric and is not taught in lower levels of education. Nikole Hannah-Jones and the 1619 Project is a layman's version of academic CRT. It provided fodder however for a later branch of CRT activists who didn't understand the original studies and twisted them into all the things you discuss and pushed it out into human resources and education at lower levels. Activist CRT is racist. It is taught in public schools and corporations. We see it in organizations like BLM.

    It's important to distinguish between academic and activist CRT. When the left claims CRT is not understood and not taught in public school, it means academic CRT. But activist CRT is.
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