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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    I really don't think you can call the vaccines, "highly effective" not when the vaccinated can still get and spread covid and, are still required to wear masks. It they were, "highly effective" why would masks be necessary?

    I think they are highly effective. Nothing is 100% b/c of the fact that everybody is different. The vaccines are now running up against the variants. I respect your personal decisions not to get it, that's your right. I got it, please respect mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Some good points although I don't think we boomers did OK or even close. It was us who let this tribalism take hold and grow, we did nothing about our crimimal congress and their influence for sale program. We got lazy enough to vote "R" or "D" without investigation of the alternatives or even without thought. The millennials aren't really in charge yet and while the oldest of the boomer children are in their 50's many are not even 40 yet. Like all things this situation was created by a combination of generations. Let ours go down as the one who accepts some of the responsibility.
    I agree with your thoughts.
    Should have better noted 'did okay' ... generally science and technology mostly helps people live easier.... not necessarily societally better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    I agree with your thoughts.
    Should have better noted 'did okay' ... generally science and technology mostly helps people live easier.... not necessarily societally better.
    make a great day d

    Yes, I don't see kids as happy as we used to be. On the other hand medical advances save lives and worry. I once had a discussion with my son on this to keep medicine would be one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    That's 1500 out of 170 million vaccinated people.

    Does that qualify as statisically zero? The math comes to 0.000009. ( using 166,000,000 vaccinated people) About half the country. Obviously there are multiple other factors including how long ago those people were vaccinated and their demographics. Obviously COVID has had more time with vaccinated unvaccinated folks, but I think these numbers are an indication that the vaccine works well.
    Which means the vax is best for most but also that it works well enough that it is irrational and flat out controlling to force others to take the vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Does that qualify as statisically zero? The math comes to 0.000009. ( using 166,000,000 vaccinated people) About half the country. Obviously there are multiple other factors including how long ago those people were vaccinated and their demographics. Obviously COVID has had more time with vaccinated unvaccinated folks, but I think these numbers are an indication that the vaccine works well.
    Which means the vax is best for most but also that it works well enough that it is irrational and flat out controlling to force others to take the vaccine.
    I don't advocate requiring others to get vaccinated. I am stating a fact. I don't care but I want facts, not opinions. I prefer real doctors, not Voodoo doctors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    I don't advocate requiring others to get vaccinated. I am stating a fact. I don't care but I want facts, not opinions. I prefer real doctors, not Voodoo doctors.

    I'm not certain what you mean by that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yes, I don't see kids as happy as we used to be. On the other hand medical advances save lives and worry. I once had a discussion with my son on this to keep medicine would be one of them.
    With what’s being pumped into their brain, how can they be happy?
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