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    The Robert E. Lee Monument, A History and Preservation

    A great video documenting the conception, creation, and display of the Lee monument.




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V0Y59X5jEs&list=PLA6ggvPwft6lemEUYHT0gHPa_aTmjmBJ7, The Civil War Diaries, is a whole series of similar documentaries.
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    Louis Brandeis,Dissenting, Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1928)

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    Several of our historically illiterate members do not understand that the vast majority of these statues were dedicated during the Reconciliation Movement of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. This movement was critical to the development of the USA as something that was actually experienced and felt by northers and southerners alike. The conception of America we have today simply wasn't shared by our ancestors and reconciliation helped allow the America we know to develop.
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    I didn't know about the time capsule.

    I hope someone photographs the contents and posts them.

    I wonder why anyone would go to Richmond now, as a tourist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Several of our historically illiterate members do not understand that the vast majority of these statues were dedicated during the Reconciliation Movement of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. This movement was critical to the development of the USA as something that was actually experienced and felt by northers and southerners alike. The conception of America we have today simply wasn't shared by our ancestors and reconciliation helped allow the America we know to develop.

    They were also meant to honor the War dead and represent something to families on both sides. The conflict was over and statues don't harm anybody.

    BLM/ANTIFA on the other hand................

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    I didn't know about the time capsule.

    I hope someone photographs the contents and posts them.

    I wonder why anyone would go to Richmond now, as a tourist.

    When they took the statue down there was some delay because they couldn't find it, I recall. Wonder if they ever did.
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    The time capsule...

    Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.
    Louis Brandeis,Dissenting, Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1928)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    They were also meant to honor the War dead and represent something to families on both sides.
    Many of whom were buried in burial trenches and unmarked graves on the battlefield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Several of our historically illiterate members do not understand that the vast majority of these statues were dedicated during the Reconciliation Movement of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. This movement was critical to the development of the USA as something that was actually experienced and felt by northers and southerners alike. The conception of America we have today simply wasn't shared by our ancestors and reconciliation helped allow the America we know to develop.

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/201...hite-supremacy
    A smaller number of monuments, like the one recently toppled in Durham, were indeed funded with public money — but an asterisk must be attached to the word “public.” In 1922, Confederate veterans in Durham persuaded the state legislature to allocate $5,000 of county taxes to fund the monument. No one asked black residents, who were denied the right to vote by Jim Crow laws, whether they supported spending their tax dollars on this public, political statement.Most monuments went up not immediately after the war, but as Southerners put Jim Crow in place — and Northerners gave up on racial justice
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    You're off topic.

    The movement to erect the Lee monument started on his death in 1870, it was erected 1890.

    Democrats didn't start enacting Jim Crow till after that, as your source states.

    Persist off topic and you'll be TBed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    You're off topic.

    The movement to erect the Lee monument started on his death in 1870, it was erected 1890.

    Democrats didn't start enacting Jim Crow till after that, as your source states.

    Persist off topic and you'll be TBed.
    Another member, IIRC, cited the same piece last year when she was arguing that these statues were erected to intimidate blacks and enforce white supremacy. As I explained then and above, they had nothing to do with Jim Crow. In reality, blacks were simply be ignored because unification and healing was a greater priority for the state. We can argue about that but the anyone wishing to discuss it should familiarize himself with the historical context.
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