What I'm finding emphasized is a rejection of Marxist socialism rather than socialism per se both before and especially after Hitler joined the party. It's explicit in Nazi texts and speeches. National Socialism is the only true socialism.
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What I'm finding emphasized is a rejection of Marxist socialism rather than socialism per se both before and especially after Hitler joined the party. It's explicit in Nazi texts and speeches. National Socialism is the only true socialism.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Well, fascism, with its corporatist structure included both employers and workers in each corporation* while socialism would replace owners with workers.
(*I read the other day that that was the plan but employers and workers resisted working together so each corporation was split into an owners component and a workers component. Workers were represented by unions if I recall correctly.)
As to Nazism adopting fascism, the 25-point “Programme of the Party” adopted in 1925 promised corporative institutions but didn't really hold to that as Hitler became dictator. See German Theories of the Corporative State for a brief overview..
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Definitely, the contention in Germany between the World Wars was between national socialism and Marxist socialism (communism). They shared contempt for liberal democracy and capitalism but the Nazis thought socialism--and partly through corporatist institutions--could better be achieved nationally rather than globally or universally.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
I suppose fascism and Nazism were works in progress. Because of the war, it's hard to tell what a stable model would look like.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Economic Fascism is an interesting write-up. Corporatism was very popular in the US and Britain in the 1920s and 1930s. People saw it as the future. "A version of economic fascism was in fact adopted in the United States in the 1930s and survives to this day. In the United States these policies were not called 'fascism' but 'planned capitalism.' ...The evil deeds of individual fascists were later condemned, but the practice of economic fascism never was." Whereas classical liberalism put the individual before the state, fascism put the state before the individual, same as communism, similar to today's political milieu.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
JMWinPR (09-18-2021)
The state corporative in Italy was divided into "groups"; trade unions of any kind were outlawed in both fascist Italy and fascist Germany:
https://www.counterfire.org/articles...e-trade-unions
Big Business and fascism worked hand in hand; not necessarily the business choice, but the state was the peak interest. German "corporations" as public investitures go back to the late 18th century. Old English texts on records of Norther Ireland list early settlements as "corporation". Fascism used that same model; it appears.
Yea, thanks for repeating what I'd posted.The state corporative in Italy was divided into "groups"; trade unions of any kind were outlawed in both fascist Italy and fascist Germany
Yes, some previous posts indicate such a long history of the idea of corporatism....not necessarily the business choice, but the state was the peak interest. German "corporations" as public investitures go back to the late 18th century. Old English texts on records of Norther Ireland list early settlements as "corporation". Fascism used that same model; it appears.
Corporatism is not the collusion of government and corporations we see today. This thread is a correction of the misunderstanding.Big Business and fascism worked hand in hand...
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler