Sidelined? Hundreds of Navy SEALS told they won't be deployed if they refuse COVID va

[MMC]

I say it again in the simplest English possible so that you can understand:

Among those who have had COVID, studies have shown that a single COVID vaccine shot can reduce the chances of a reinfection by 50%.

The data you are citing, regarding people getting "two shots," are not people who ever had COVID before.

Here lets keep it simple for you Ritchie.



Health Ministry: Vaccine down to 64% effectiveness in ...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/...
Aug 31, 2021 · The Health Ministry says that in the past month, the Pfizer vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 has dropped by some 30% to 64%. It notes the drop in


Nothing changes about the Vaccine. It drops in efficiency. And again.....the Israelis wouldnt be taking another shot. If there wasnt a worry about reinfection.

[RichardMZhlubb]

Here lets keep it simple for you Ritchie.



Health Ministry: Vaccine down to 64% effectiveness in ...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/...
Aug 31, 2021 · The Health Ministry says that in the past month, the Pfizer vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 has dropped by some 30% to 64%. It notes the drop in


Nothing changes about the Vaccine. It drops in efficiency. And again.....the Israelis wouldnt be taking another shot. If there wasnt a worry about reinfection.

The Israeli study comparing natural immunity and vaccine immunity, that you cited a few days ago, concluded that those who have had COVID before and have received one vaccine shot are half as likely to get a COVID reinfection as those who have had COVID and have not received any vaccine shots.

i.e., as far as immunity is concerned, COVID + vaccine >>>> COVID.

[carolina73]

Natural immunity alone provides inferior protection from reinfection than natural immunity plus a vaccine shot. That's the bottom line. Even if these Navy Seals have had COVID, they are still better protected if they get vaccinated.

How much more? .00001%? I think that is a misleading claim in terms of its value.

Would you take a new vaccine that only claimed to have 2% 5% or 10% efficacy.

[MMC]

The Israeli study comparing natural immunity and vaccine immunity, that you cited a few days ago, concluded that those who have had COVID before and have received one vaccine shot are half as likely to get a COVID reinfection as those who have had COVID and have not received any vaccine shots.

i.e., as far as immunity is concerned, COVID + vaccine >>>> COVID.

1. Covid-19 booster shot science, explained: Why FDA panel ...
   
   https://www.vox.com/coronavirus-covid19/22675485/...
   Sep 17, 2021 · Israel is already pushing ahead with booster shots, with most of that country’s population currently eligible for a third shot, based on data that indicates vaccine
   effectiveness wanes over time.
   
   
   Got it?

[RichardMZhlubb]

1. Covid-19 booster shot science, explained: Why FDA panel ...
   
   https://www.vox.com/coronavirus-covid19/22675485/...
   Sep 17, 2021 · Israel is already pushing ahead with booster shots, with most of that country’s population currently eligible for a third shot, based on data that indicates vaccine
   effectiveness wanes over time.
   
   
   Got it?

I got that you're arguing a completely unrelated point, for some unknown reason.

[RichardMZhlubb]

How much more? .00001%? I think that is a misleading claim in terms of its value.

Would you take a new vaccine that only claimed to have 2% 5% or 10% efficacy.

As I posted earlier in this thread, people who have had COVID and get at least one vaccine shot are one half as likely to get a reinfection as those who have had COVID, but no vaccine shots.

[MMC]

I got that you're arguing a completely unrelated point, for some unknown reason.

So you are saying that you are unable to comprehend that the vaccine effectiveness wears off.

[carolina73]

As I posted earlier in this thread, people who have had COVID and get at least one vaccine shot are one half as likely to get a reinfection as those who have had COVID, but no vaccine shots.

Half of what? Half of 7%? Half of 4%?

The reinfection rate is already so low that now the risk of the vaccine certainly does not out weight the benefits.

Saying cuts it in half is purposely deceptive and meant to avoid the fact that that is half of almost nothing.

[RichardMZhlubb]

So you are saying that you are unable to comprehend that the vaccine effectiveness wears off.

Both natural and vaccine immunity do wane over time, but that doesn’t change the data showing that natural immunity plus a vaccine shot provides greater protection than natural immunity alone.

[RichardMZhlubb]

Half of what? Half of 7%? Half of 4%?

The reinfection rate is already so low that now the risk of the vaccine certainly does not out weight the benefits.

Saying cuts it in half is purposely deceptive and meant to avoid the fact that that is half of almost nothing.

What “risk of the vaccine”? Most of the risks claimed by the anti-vaccine crowd are myths.