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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    I must admit, that raised my eyebrows a bit but I've yet to hear back from him so maybe he's re-evaluating what he posted.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    The Military Times this week cited exit polling from Edison Research that showed 52 percent of military and veteran voters
    Can I call it? I specifically tell them to _not_ conflate veterans with active duty military, so they immediately do exactly that.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...-younger-ones/
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    But unlike the Military Times active-duty poll conducted in August, the veterans poll shows strong support among the veterans population for Trump. The active-duty poll had a slight edge for Biden (41 percent to 37 percent) while the 10-point margin among veterans indicates more decisive support for the president.
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    Afghan war vet with two heart conditions faces dishonorable discharge for refusing COVID shot

    AUnited States Marine corporal who served in Afghanistan during Operation Freedom Sentinel and Operation Southern Vigilance is facing dishonorable discharge for refusing to take the COVID-19 shots as required by the secretary of defense.


    Having been diagnosed with two heart conditions, arrhythmia and right bundle branch blockage, taking an experimental drug with unknown long-term side effects isn't a medical option for him, he says, especially since the shots have already been proven to cause blood clots and heart inflammation. However, he was informed that the only medical waiver he could receive was if he was diagnosed with congenital heart failure.


    The nonprofit religious freedom law firm Liberty Counsel says it's "been inundated with heartrending pleas for help from military members who are being ordered to get the COVID shots or face discipline, including solitary confinement and dishonorable discharge." This Marine's story is just one of many......snip~


    Afghan war vet with two heart conditions faces dishonorable discharge for refusing COVID shot | Just The News


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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth
    Of course it does. Vaccines aren't 100% effective, and viruses mutate, so unvaccinated plague rats put everyone around them at risk. This is basic medical science and basic logic.
    So do vaccinated plague rats. COVID-19 vaccines are not sterilizing vaccines. They do not prevent you from either getting or spreading covid. The only intention of these vaccines is to reduce the instance of hospitalizations by priming the immune system with some antibodies for the spike protein itself, not the virus. That's basic medical science.
    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth
    Your side will look more and more ridiculous
    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth
    In any case, it doesn't look good for you.
    Is this really all about vanity for you and how you look to others? That's from the limbic system, the social part of the brain. It's not the frontal cortex, the science and logic part of the brain.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC
    Remember now this mope doesnt even know that half the Black Population are unvaccinated along with 41% of Latinos. Thats in those Democrat $#@!holes.
    For some reason, the media seems to think and is propagating the idea that the people who oppose the vaccine are all pro-Trump people. Trump was the one who ordered the development of the vaccines and approved emergency use authorization. He himself requested compassionate use of Regeneron's antibody $#@!tail.Pro-vaxxers think that they are only punishing "right wingers" for some reason. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is no right winger. Much of the anti-vaccine community are on the left who do not believe in the invasiveness of modern medicine--they think modern medicine is right wing. They do things like have measles parties for their children. You can tell they aren't right wingers. They smell like BO and patchouli oil.
    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth
    You are, as is almost always the case, stating false information. Sadly, you don't understand that.
    Strange. The link you provided basically makes MMC's point. Blacks and Hispanics have the highest percentage of unvaccinated people. In New York City, the number hovers around 70% of blacks between the ages of 18-44. Like older whites, older blacks are majority vaccinated. Younger people are more likely to refuse the vaccine. This has already turned into de facto segregation as the overwhelming majority of young blacks are not allowed to enter restaurants or bars in NYC. That probably wasn't the intended result, but it is the actual result. The firings of people who won't get vaccinated, similarly, disproportionately affect the minority population. Apparently, black lives do not matter any more if they haven't been vaccinated.
    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth
    But then, nobody gets sucked into the Trump cult unless they're logic-deficient.
    Why do you think this involves Donald Trump? Donald Trump initiated Operation Warp Speed, commissioned the development of the vaccines at taxpayer expense, signed emergency use authorization, and publicly encourages people to get the vaccine. At no point has Donald Trump been anti-vaccine. The vaccines wouldn't even be available right now if it hadn't been for Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth
    Or when someone disobeys a direct valid order, putting the health and safety of fellow servicemen at risk.
    Refusing the vaccine does not put the vaccinated at risk. Getting the vaccine does not reduce your chances of contracting the virus. It reduces the chances of you requiring hospitalization for treatment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage
    They aren't stupid, they just revel in the idea that they are, somehow, 'superior' to anyone who thinks differently then them.
    It's a little bit more like epistemic closure. mamooth is insisting that opposition to vaccines necessarily implies a right wing political disposition predicated on an inability to understand science, and that such people reflexively support Donald Trump. However, the evidence does not bear it out--even the evidence mamooth presented himself. The young are much less inclined to get vaccinated than the older population--who are disproportionately affected by covid; and, black and Hispanic minorities are much more likely to refuse the vaccination than whites. Yet, the young and minorities are not necessarily right wingers. Further, Trump himself commissioned the vaccines at tax payers expense, approved emergency use authorization, and promoted people getting vaccinated. Yet, somehow mamooth has got this idea that pro-Trump people are all anti-vaccine.
    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45
    When you join the military and take the oath, you basically sign away all of your rights like it or not.
    No you don't. That's why they have trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Says the guy who is engaging in pouty circle-jerks about how mean I am. The phrase "grow up" comes to mind. I get it, you're butthurt. Get over it. Now, let's get back to discussion, so everyone can watch you keep running.
    Circle jerk? No, commentary just to piss you off it's fun to watch you have a conniption. You seem to forget who disappeared, which would be you. you disappear when you can't hold ground in a discussion, but hey, you throw insults to hide that habit.
    Why did you, in post #5, agree with the big lie that Biden wanted to give vaccine refusers dishonorable discharges?
    It's called weaponizing. Try and understand what that means. Come on, we know you can do it.

    Why did you make up a story about Fauci and the CDC making false statements about the vaccines?
    What 'story' did I make up?
    What is your position on the safety of the vaccines? If you'd just state it clearly, we wouldn't have to make educated guesses. When you feel a burning need to jump in to defend antivaxxers, the logical inference is that you agree with them.
    You aren't making 'educated' guesses. You make assumptions based on the fact I don't agree that the injections should be weaponized, and mandating injecting people is weaponizing it. Using employers to mandate the injection is absolute weaponizing. You are too busy thinking up stupid but creative insults to actually understand the subject being discussed.

    Injections should be wholly voluntary. If you want it, get it. If you don't want it, don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21 View Post
    So do vaccinated plague rats. COVID-19 vaccines are not sterilizing vaccines. They do not prevent you from either getting or spreading covid. The only intention of these vaccines is to reduce the instance of hospitalizations by priming the immune system with some antibodies for the spike protein itself, not the virus. That's basic medical science. Is this really all about vanity for you and how you look to others? That's from the limbic system, the social part of the brain. It's not the frontal cortex, the science and logic part of the brain. For some reason, the media seems to think and is propagating the idea that the people who oppose the vaccine are all pro-Trump people. Trump was the one who ordered the development of the vaccines and approved emergency use authorization. He himself requested compassionate use of Regeneron's antibody $#@!tail.Pro-vaxxers think that they are only punishing "right wingers" for some reason. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is no right winger. Much of the anti-vaccine community are on the left who do not believe in the invasiveness of modern medicine--they think modern medicine is right wing. They do things like have measles parties for their children. You can tell they aren't right wingers. They smell like BO and patchouli oil. Strange. The link you provided basically makes MMC's point. Blacks and Hispanics have the highest percentage of unvaccinated people. In New York City, the number hovers around 70% of blacks between the ages of 18-44. Like older whites, older blacks are majority vaccinated. Younger people are more likely to refuse the vaccine. This has already turned into de facto segregation as the overwhelming majority of young blacks are not allowed to enter restaurants or bars in NYC. That probably wasn't the intended result, but it is the actual result. The firings of people who won't get vaccinated, similarly, disproportionately affect the minority population. Apparently, black lives do not matter any more if they haven't been vaccinated. Why do you think this involves Donald Trump? Donald Trump initiated Operation Warp Speed, commissioned the development of the vaccines at taxpayer expense, signed emergency use authorization, and publicly encourages people to get the vaccine. At no point has Donald Trump been anti-vaccine. The vaccines wouldn't even be available right now if it hadn't been for Trump. Refusing the vaccine does not put the vaccinated at risk. Getting the vaccine does not reduce your chances of contracting the virus. It reduces the chances of you requiring hospitalization for treatment. It's a little bit more like epistemic closure. mamooth is insisting that opposition to vaccines necessarily implies a right wing political disposition predicated on an inability to understand science, and that such people reflexively support Donald Trump. However, the evidence does not bear it out--even the evidence mamooth presented himself. The young are much less inclined to get vaccinated than the older population--who are disproportionately affected by covid; and, black and Hispanic minorities are much more likely to refuse the vaccination than whites. Yet, the young and minorities are not necessarily right wingers. Further, Trump himself commissioned the vaccines at tax payers expense, approved emergency use authorization, and promoted people getting vaccinated. Yet, somehow mamooth has got this idea that pro-Trump people are all anti-vaccine.No you don't. That's why they have trials.

    Meh.....It lives in a bubble and has never figured out why It is easily tricked. Nor why It can't compete with humans.


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