The Gavin Newsom Recall Vote: My Thoughts

[Ethereal]

Among all Americans. You guys may not recognize it, but people who think like you are a fairly small percentage of Americans.

Everywhere I go in Chicago, I see people not wearing masks, not social distancing, behaving normally. It's only in "polls" that people seem to agree with your freakshow beliefs. At any rate, it wouldn't matter if 99% of the country supported such measures. They are illegitimate and stupid.

[IMPress Polly]

It just shows a black who doesn't run as a Dem is seen as a House Ni**er. Racism in America is from the left.

The contention that anyone who didn't support Larry Elder is therefore a white supremacist is among the dumbest I've read so far. 83% of black Californians voted to keep Newsom as their governor, thus forming his single most reliable voting block. Are they white supremacists?

[Ethereal]

The impact of Covid-19 has been substantial enough that the average life expectancy in this country dropped by a year and a half last year; the biggest annualized drop since the Second World War! And no, that's not purely from the virus itself, some of it is indirect consequences, like more people dying of cancer and heart disease and other things than usual for lack of access to full hospitals, for example. Be it directly or indirectly though, as you can also find at the link, Covid-19 contributed to 74% of that drop.

The decline in life expectancy is concentrated almost entirely within 0.1% of the population. Namely, the extremely old and the morbidly obese. Japan has already proven that COVID is not a big deal if your population is healthy. But instead of focusing on improving health, you focus on inane antisocial measures that accomplish nothing and cause severe harm to society.

2,000 Americans are dying of Covid-19 a day right now.

And what percentage of them are morbidly obese? What percentage of them have multiple preexisting health conditions from smoking, drinking, and eating too much junk food? What percentage of them are bed-ridden inside a nursing home?

That makes it one of the leading causes of death in this country and our hospital system isn't built to account for pandemic outbreaks. Many states don't have adequate hospital space at this point. Nurses are exhausted and quitting the field in enormous numbers even as they're needed more than ever. People with cancer are being discharged to make room for influxes of anti-vaccine people with the virus who refuse treatment.

Hospitals have had over a year to adjust to the new reality. They've received unprecedented levels of support from the population. They no longer have any excuse.

Do you really think that's all a fair and reasonable price for our society to pay just so you don't have to get shots that are free and readily available to you right now, today, at your local pharmacy and are practically risk-free compared to going without them?

What a stupid question.

First of all, the vaccines don't stop transmission. How many times do you people need to be told this?

Secondly, there is such a thing as natural immunity.

Thirdly, I'm not sick. The vast majority of transmission occurs when someone is symptomatic.

Your attempt to blame me and people like me for the transmission of a virus is frankly despicable, as well as unscientific.

My unhinged response, he says.

Those of us who've gotten our shots and are pissed at still having to mask at work anyway for the protection of $#@!s who don't even want that protection are not "lunatics" or "cultists", we're the majority of Americans.

I'm not forcing you to wear a mask at work. And vaccines don't stop transmission anyway.

[Ethereal]

The contention that anyone who didn't support Larry Elder is therefore a white supremacist is among the dumbest I've read so far. 83% of black Californians voted to keep Newsom as their governor, thus forming his single most reliable voting block. Are they white supremacists?

No, just stupid.

[Tahuyaman]

… Pelosi called in all her chips to save her nephew…::

They are not related.

[Tahuyaman]

Mask and vaccine mandates both have majority support in this country.

I doubt that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nat...otherwise/amp/

[RichardMZhlubb]

Highly unlikely with 56-58% of Blacks refusing to take the vaccines. Along with 41% of Latinos. Then throw in all those Trump supporters and Republicans you blame. Then include all those White Leftists going to parties and events without masks, and Social distancing.....its really highly unlikely that those like you have a majority when it comes to vaccines.

Those numbers are complete bullshlt.

And here are the American adults who say they’ve already been vaccinated — broken down by demographic group:

• All adults: 69 percent
• Men: 67 percent
• Women: 71 percent
• 18-34: 63 percent
• 35-49: 58 percent
• 50-64: 71 percent
• 65+: 86 percent
• Whites: 66 percent
• Blacks: 76 percent
• Latinos: 71 percent
• Urban residents: 79 percent
• Suburban residents: 67 percent
• Rural residents: 52 percent
• White evangelicals: 59 percent
• Democrats: 88 percent
• Independents: 60 percent
• Republicans: 55 percent
• Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent
• Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent
• Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent
• Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent
• Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent
• Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent
• White non-college grads: 60 percent
• White college grads: 80 percent

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...d-u-s-n1277514

[MMC]

Those numbers are complete bullshlt.




https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...d-u-s-n1277514

Really.....thats not what Kaiser, the CDC, and NY says.

Black and Hispanic people remain less likely than their White counterparts to have received a vaccine, leaving them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads. However, the data show that these disparities are narrowing over time, particularly for Hispanic people.


The CDC reports demographic characteristics, including race/ethnicity, of people receiving COVID-19 vaccinations at the national level. As of September 21, 2021, CDC reported that race/ethnicity was known for 59% of people who had received at least one dose of the vaccine. Among this group, nearly two thirds were White (60%), 10% were Black, 17% were Hispanic, 6% were Asian, 1% were American Indian or Alaska Native, and <1% were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, while 5% reported multiple or other race. However, CDC data also show that recent vaccinations are reaching larger shares of Hispanic, and Black populations compared to overall vaccinations. Among vaccines administered in the past 14 days, 23% have gone to Hispanic people and 14% to Black people (Figure 1). These recent patterns suggest a narrowing of racial gaps in vaccinations at the national level, particularly for Hispanic and Black people, who account for a larger share of recent vaccinations compared to their share of the total population (23% vs. 17% and 14% vs. 12%, respectively). While these data provide helpful insights at a national level, to date, CDC is not publicly reporting state-level data on the racial/ethnic composition of people vaccinated......snip~


Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity | KFF



Citywide, just 28% of Black New Yorkers between the ages of 18 and 44 are fully vaccinated. The Hispanic community is the second-least fully vaccinated population in that age group, with 49% being fully vaccinated, according to NYC Health.


Concerned with the low vaccination rates, New York state is increasingly turning to grassroots groups to address the problem amid the Delta variant surge....snip~


Black New Yorkers may have the lowest vaccination rates, but community groups refuse to give up - CNN



Looks like NBC.....tool of the Deviant Party, along with Chuckles Todd. Missed all that.....again! Oh and its not only New York State either.

[RMNIXON]

California is a lost cause, we'd be better off cutting it loose into the Pacific. If it weren't for the lopsided influence of California and New York, this country probably wouldn't be in that bad of a shape.

I had to look up the fact that California Republicans are now down to 24% of the State and declining with constant Middle Class flight. The remaining are mostly in the North East areas.

If you add all the Independents (many who are just far left loons) they still don't make a majority.

But what I am proud of is that among the YES recall voters Larry Elder had 48% with dozens of candidates and nobody else hardly came close. Conservatives had no problem electing our first black Governor who was not on the Plantation!

[Peter1469]

Where has the vaccine been banned?

Oh there's someone neurotic here alright, but it ain't people who want their loved ones to survive this nightmare, it's people like you who deny its existence.

You have an interesting definition of "normally" because those states have some of the worst per capita Covid outbreaks in the country thanks to their bans on things like vaccine and masking requirements and their respective governors are both paying for it in the polls.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott is currently polling the worst of his entire governorship to date and, according to the most recent survey by the Dallas Morning News, would lose to a likely challenger by 9 percentage points of next year's election for his post were held today. In fact, when you look at the chart at that first link, you can identify a point where things went downhill for Abbott permanently: right around the time he initially lifted the state's lockdown prematurely in 2020. Before that point, he'd been a popular governor in the conservative state. After that point, never again reached 50% support and his disapproval rating shot up and has remained elevated since. Conversely, his best polling, as you can also see, came immediately he briefly imposed the statewide lockdown. People may not be open to lockdowns anymore in 2021 now that we have vaccines, but they do want to sense that their leaders fundamentally care about them.

And Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who was once considered a serious presidential contender for 2024, now only breaks even in support in his state at 48% approval and disapproval after the delta variant ripped through his state this summer, resulting in a 14-point drop in support for the governor.

Gavin Newsom's approval rating, by contrast, has trended in the opposite direction. His polling trajectory was downhill in the early summer as Covid-19 receded as an issue on people's minds and they began to concern themselves more with other problems, like rises in violent crime for example. The delta outbreak, by contrast, has helped Newsom politically, as he's seen as a real leader on the issue. His state of California currently has the lowest per capita rate of Covid transmission in the country and he just got 62% of the vote a second time. (This is the CDC's Covid tracking site. You see that one spot on their map of the country that's not completely red? That's California.)

My point being that taking the virus seriously on the one hand and good political fortunes on the other are linked. As multiple states are now reduced to rationing life-saving hospital care for the first time in the history of this country, it's little wonder why.