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    I Can NOT Be Killed.

    I Can NOT Be Killed.
    By JAG
    September 26, 2021


    My body can be killed, but "I" can NOT be killed.


    Why not?


    Because I am not my body.


    "I" am not my liver, kidneys. arms, legs, feet or fingers.


    I am not my brain. My brain is nothing more than a flesh
    and blood computer than makes it possible for "I" to interact
    with my surroundings.


    My arms, legs, feet, fingers, and brain will one day die, but "I"
    will live on and on forever.


    "Jesus said . . . the one who believes in Me will live, even though
    they die, and whoever lives by believing in Me will never die."
    John 11:25-26


    "My sheep listen to My voice. I know them and they follow Me.
    I give then eternal life and they shall never perish."
    __The Lord Jesus John 10:27-28


    "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son
    that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."
    John 3:16


    So?


    So those two fierce killer generals, General Time and General Death,
    can never kill me.


    Because . . .


    "I" can NOT be killed.


    Thoughts?



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    If your body is not the real you -- then does it exist?
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    If your body is not the real you -- then does it exist?
    Our physical bodies seem real to me. I feel pain. I get tired. I get sleepy.
    Yet we don't really believe, do we, that our physical body is all that we are.
    You don't want to believe that, do you?

    Best.

    JAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG View Post
    Our physical bodies seem real to me. I feel pain. I get tired. I get sleepy.
    Yet we don't really believe, do we, that our physical body is all that we are.
    You don't want to believe that, do you?

    Best.

    JAG

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    Why not?

    Are you afraid of the idea that someday you will just cease to exist?
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG View Post
    Our physical bodies seem real to me. I feel pain. I get tired. I get sleepy.
    Yet we don't really believe, do we, that our physical body is all that we are.
    You don't want to believe that, do you?

    Best.

    JAG

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    Physical bodies do seem real.

    Thermodynamics tells us that energy changes form but that it can't be created and it can't be destroyed. If that's factual, at birth or at conception, no new energy is created, but rather a portion begins to focus in a specific way--in a new physical vehicle. Sights, sounds, taste, physical touch and emotions all require a physical body in order to be experienced. That makes the body a translator of energy. So, at death, a body ceases to translate energy--but what happens to that energy?

    Does that energy retain perspective and personality? Or, does it simply reemerge and blend into the vastness we know as non-physical energy?
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Why not?

    Are you afraid of the idea that someday you will just cease to exist?
    Regarding your "why not? :
    I keep it simple: Faith.
    I live by FAITH.
    I choose to live by FAITH.

    We're all different.
    You don't want to live in my world (of faith) , , , or maybe you really do?
    I don't want to live in your world (of unbelief.)

    I have personally experienced the Mercy, Grace, Love, and Forgiveness
    of God and the Lord Jesus for decades. And I'm 100% satisfied and I have
    zero doubts.

    So?

    So when the Lord Jesus tells me this:

    "Jesus said . . . the one who believes in Me will live, even though
    they die, and whoever lives by believing in Me will never die."
    John 11:25-26


    "My sheep listen to My voice. I know them and they follow Me.
    I give then eternal life and they shall never perish."
    __The Lord Jesus John 10:27-28

    I believe Him.

    And then here is Christendom's most famous Bible verse:


    "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son
    that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."
    John 3:16

    I believe that too.



    Regarding being afraid that some day I will cease to exist:

    Since I KNOW (2 + 2 = 4 know) that I will never die, I'm never
    afraid.

    BUT , , ,

    , , , if I did not know that I will never die, YES I would be afraid
    of ceasing to exist.

    Why?

    Because I love life.

    I love music, food, art, conversation, relationships, love. I love love.
    I want to explore Andromeda.
    Andromeda and Orion was created by God and put there for His creatures
    to one day explore and most likely to colonize.

    So?

    So I would be horrified at the thoughts of ceasing to enjoy all those
    things -- plus the joys of Heaven will be far greater than the joys of
    this earthly life.

    Best Regards.

    JAG


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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Physical bodies do seem real.

    Thermodynamics tells us that energy changes form but that it can't be created and it can't be destroyed. If that's factual, at birth or at conception, no new energy is created, but rather a portion begins to focus in a specific way--in a new physical vehicle. Sights, sounds, taste, physical touch and emotions all require a physical body in order to be experienced. That makes the body a translator of energy. So, at death, a body ceases to translate energy--but what happens to that energy?

    Does that energy retain perspective and personality? Or, does it simply reemerge and blend into the vastness we know as non-physical energy?
    I read that carefully. Well written, I thought. Interesting too.
    My post up there, the one I wrote to Cletus, could also, partly, be my response to your post.
    As a Christian, I believe that God is a Person.
    He is a Persona with a Will and a Plan.
    And His plan is to save the world.
    "God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world." John 3:17
    That verse, by the way, is the verse that immediately follows Christendom's most famous verse: John 3:16
    Save the world means He gives us the gift of eternal life. Jesus has defeated death for us. On The Cross.

    Regarding the "nuts and bolts" of exactly what the human soul is: I have no foggy clue. I mean I don't
    have even a remote notion of what my soul is "made out of." I know by faith that its real. I don't know that
    it has material substance.

    A Hollywood movie once showed the human soul in the form of a golden light.

    Then we have stuff like this:





    Thanks for your comment and questions.

    Best Regards.

    JAG


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    Last edited by JAG; 09-27-2021 at 08:50 AM.

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